Sub or dub? Cowboy Bebop?
Added 2018-12-21 17:45:40 +0000 UTCWhat should I watch?
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GoldArthur
2018-12-23 10:05:27 +0000 UTCThis is so true - only a few dubs haven't come across as cringe-worthy cheesy to me, and even then they usually still have those moments. For example the My Hero dub is pretty good. Something just sounds cooler about the japanese voices, more natural, even though I don't understand it. Maybe it's because the context of what's being said is so often unbelievable - paired coming from an animation it almost breaks immersion hearing 'real' voices you can understand. Hearing a language you don't understand, and processing what is being said with text sort of keeps everything you're seeing within a 'fake' context that is easier to palate. It's a tricky thing to explain but that's sort of how I think of it because I've always found English anime hard to watch.
Mamox
2018-12-23 02:46:56 +0000 UTCFor most its because native english speakers find the english dubs too cheesy. The same goes with native Japanese speakers, they say that the japanese voices are too cheesy and that english is cooler. Since most never natively learned the language, that group of people find the opposite language to have a bigger sounding impact, because they dont know the true nuances of those languages.
Sherv
2018-12-22 07:19:25 +0000 UTC@Luis I don't even need to master English to destroy U lol
Black
2018-12-22 07:11:13 +0000 UTCIve already watched it in sub and the dub sounds nice so I voted dub.
Matthew Pask
2018-12-22 06:55:46 +0000 UTCyour theory straight from your A*S xD
Black
2018-12-22 05:20:42 +0000 UTCI have a theory on why so many people say they only watch subs when they actually don’t. It’s because they’re so self conscious that they’ll take any opportunity to let people know that they can read. Simple and sad
Luis Monegro
2018-12-22 04:32:57 +0000 UTCLol @Black learn how to write a sentence.
Luis Monegro
2018-12-22 04:19:45 +0000 UTCIf/when you do Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, I'll definitely vote for dub. It's great.
Zana
2018-12-22 02:06:58 +0000 UTCThe Dub for Spike is also the Toonami voice guy! Dub is amazing.
Satori
2018-12-22 01:32:06 +0000 UTCBebob has a good dub but sub is always better
AOP
2018-12-22 01:28:08 +0000 UTCDepends on which version is your original. Despite arguments to the contrary I think It mostly boils down to subs being first to come out which seems to bias the discussion because first impressions can mean a lot to people. Whichever is seen first becomes the "standard." In this case, for many people dub was their first viewing of Bebop so naturally its their "canon." Speaking of anime in general most viewers are used to subs--being that again subs is what anime come out in first--so they stick with that they know (their habit) whenever a newer show comes out. I don't think it necessarily has as much to do with quality, especially for certain shows like Bebop or FMA (obviously some dubs are lazy).
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-22 01:24:59 +0000 UTCOf course a dub can be better than a sub. There are people here claiming just that. Asserting something does not make it true. You can have your own personal preference but don't turn that into a rule.
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-22 01:22:20 +0000 UTCNot all dubs are equal, Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and Death Note have one of the best dubs in anime history.
Luis Monegro
2018-12-22 01:20:28 +0000 UTCManipulated? Just because the result is not exactly what you expected? This is nonsense. If we are to think of manipulation, there is no evidence that it is not being manipulated for the dubbed or sub
Asterion
2018-12-22 01:10:51 +0000 UTCI usually prefer sub, but BeBop has a nice dub. So i vote dub! It's your choise!
Alex
2018-12-22 01:08:02 +0000 UTCIt's usually louder in the patreon videos, less so for the YouTube edition
Zana
2018-12-22 00:31:01 +0000 UTCI never watched this anime so I will say subbed
Jose Quijije
2018-12-22 00:27:54 +0000 UTCI just mean the anime is so quiet I can hardly hear it in your reactions.
Matthew D Guderian
2018-12-22 00:23:12 +0000 UTCBe sure to turn the volume up if you do dub please. subs are how I was able to follow but it does not matter to me. I have seen cowboy bebop 3 times and i love the anime. One of the best ever
Matthew D Guderian
2018-12-22 00:22:16 +0000 UTCShe said she'd ended in 4 hours. And that was a while ago. So I'm glad that dub won. It really is a fantastic dubbing of the anime. So many fans always refer to Cowboy Bebop in terms of how good a dub can be.
Zana
2018-12-22 00:14:22 +0000 UTCAside from the dub. c:
ednapls
2018-12-21 23:55:14 +0000 UTCNothing beats the original.
Nox
2018-12-21 23:53:27 +0000 UTCNever watched any anime with (good) dub and I wont start with it. Im sure there might be some good ones but no matter how good a dub version is it simply cant be better than a sub (As good as the sub at best). Its just more convenient maybe (because u dont have to read) but other than that I dont see any pros for it. Btw. you have to consider that there are not only english native speaker watching her reactions. A dub version might be harder to understand than with subs. And she would need to increase the volume for us to hear everything they say.
Misushi
2018-12-21 22:49:08 +0000 UTCAs I mentioned on the other post I prefer the Dub. I honestly thought more people did. Although it is winning right now (Dubbed version) in the poll I thought it would be less close than it is but there is a bit of time and it seems from the comments that Dub is preferred. Well if anything the ability to vote is much appreciated. :)
KZ0
2018-12-21 21:21:29 +0000 UTCyour argument is stupidly right of course if they hate the dub they gonna vote sub or they paid to vote for polls and not to watch the content xD
Black
2018-12-21 21:06:12 +0000 UTCi watched it in dub and it was awesome. I personally like english dubs unless it involves characters screaming their techniques when they fight...e.g. dragonball , OP , Naruto, Bleach, FT ...then it always loses it's magic and becomes weird
Chris Christophers
2018-12-21 21:03:37 +0000 UTCI favorited yours in return :p in my defence you didn't clarify what happened and just boosted his conspiracy even when you said nothing weird going on lol, if the poll was public it's different matter and doesn't apply here and now patreon pay is upfront you can't take back... the point is if the dub win I am not gonna bitch about it but the conspiracist here doesn't want to acknowledge people who doesn't like the dub version, I hope u see my point ;D
Black
2018-12-21 21:02:43 +0000 UTCBebop has one of the greatest English dubs of all time.
ChaosPudding
2018-12-21 20:37:13 +0000 UTCIt wasn't exactly a response to you, but you could say it was the reason I sent that comment ^^u
Chandler
2018-12-21 20:14:32 +0000 UTCDub. No reason to watch it in sub. Some people will vote sub because they hate any dub no matter what. Bebop dub is great.
Jechtsphere
2018-12-21 20:05:48 +0000 UTCI generally prefer to watch all anime in sub, but for cowboy bebop I don't mind either. Maybe watching the first episode of both versions and choosing the one you prefer is better.
camel.d
2018-12-21 20:03:02 +0000 UTCNo idea I've never seen it myself only the odd clip on watchmojo.com's top ten videos on YouTube
Colum Lennon
2018-12-21 20:01:57 +0000 UTCI favorited your comment because its funny. I said I doubt there was rigging in this case. There is no reason to think anything is out of the ordinary and I don't really look for these things. From my memory, the other channel left polls open to anyone (or it might have been that an influx of people waited and then paid the 1$ for the poll right as it was closing and then immediately unregistered, which caused some arguments from those long-time patrons who didn't like youtube viewers subbing temporarily to alter a patron-only poll so that they could see the show in their preferred format when it reached youtube). That's why I mentioned her 1$ tier (which I'm apart of) and also mentioned how I can't understand people's motivations. My point was that spending 1$ to mess with a poll seems pointless but lots of things people do seem pointless to me and frankly its debatable whether there's anything wrong with paying your money and then deregistering.
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-21 19:55:24 +0000 UTCDub 100%. I've never even heard of someone watching the sub. Dub is definitely the standard experience.
2018-12-21 19:53:30 +0000 UTCA lot of what he did seemed purposefully western-based so this just seems like one of those where dub isn't unreasonable and likely preferable. English for better or worse is a more standard international language. But you're also right that I made an assumption about where the patrons come from (if your comment was a response to me; seemed like it might have been).
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-21 19:48:16 +0000 UTCKevaughn Hunter, what happened at other channel !!! trolls came by hundreds to manipulate polls that the creator made to destroy the channel?? , it really a laughable how your mind process xD
Black
2018-12-21 19:42:02 +0000 UTCI'm sure many subs don't have English as their native language, such as myself, so the language choice doesn't really matter that much. And I can't speak for everyone of them, but I guess those accents might not sound that different to us.
Chandler
2018-12-21 19:39:16 +0000 UTCAssimilater don't bother, it's just his small mind doesn't fathom that this many doesn't like the dub xD
Black
2018-12-21 19:38:38 +0000 UTCIts happened on another channel. She has 1$ dollar subs. I can't get into peoples heads though, and I doubt there's anything weird this time.
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-21 19:32:48 +0000 UTCThat's a lot of trolls willing to spend money 🤔
Assimilater
2018-12-21 19:30:24 +0000 UTCI don't think it's trolls....I'm not a troll and I don't think that many trolls would spend money
Assimilater
2018-12-21 19:29:23 +0000 UTCIt's famous, the people that love it swear and rave for it. But if I'm gonna pick best dub it's either going to be fmab or black lagoon. I haven't seen bl sub but in the case of cb or fmab I still prefer the sub. I think a lot of us maybe are just quiet about it because we don't want to deal with the masses that rave about the dub
Assimilater
2018-12-21 19:27:32 +0000 UTCIt's not close in the comments either. I mean this is a show with various accents and ethnicities. If you're an English speaker why wouldn't a good dub portray those accents and quirks better and more recognizably than Japanese actors.
Kevaughn Hunter
2018-12-21 19:22:55 +0000 UTCednapls I am not even kidding, the dub really sound like I wanna throw up in your face lol
Black
2018-12-21 19:21:17 +0000 UTCTrolls maybe? 😭
ednapls
2018-12-21 19:15:27 +0000 UTCI'm actually convinced trolls are manipulating the vote for sub... 🤔🤔 It isn't even a contest.
ednapls
2018-12-21 19:14:14 +0000 UTCsub is not winning its almost draw but it also confusing for me, I watched first 5 min of the dub and the only thing that didn't sound so cringey was the three old guys at the bar lol
Black
2018-12-21 18:57:23 +0000 UTCI'll say dub, if you think you can do it without talking over dialogue. Perhaps have the dub with subs/captions. The Cowboy Bebop dub is regarded as one of the best English dubs ever produced, and one of few anime the majority believe the dub is better, so if there's any time you should do a dub reaction, it's now.
Z-ONE
2018-12-21 18:53:36 +0000 UTCI usually don't watch dub, but this is one of the few that actually has a good dub together with baccano
IBG_Music
2018-12-21 18:52:10 +0000 UTCYh wtf I came to check back and see the sub winning I'm really confused coz I thought CB is the most famous and well done dub of all time
Mizanul Alam
2018-12-21 18:50:35 +0000 UTCWtf I'm actually confused as to how sub is winning...
Mizanul Alam
2018-12-21 18:48:50 +0000 UTCAnother thing, you do not see people speaking that do not watch the sub version, even if they prefer the dubbed one. But many do not watch dubbed versions
Asterion
2018-12-21 18:47:59 +0000 UTCSub, of course. It's the original. As much as there are people who like the dubbed version, the original is better.
Asterion
2018-12-21 18:46:35 +0000 UTCOne of the rare anime, where dubbed is Amazing!
Aman Bhela
2018-12-21 18:43:55 +0000 UTCI say dub. The japanese language doesn't fit the world of bebop imo
Hawkin
2018-12-21 18:43:05 +0000 UTCI'm surprised too, I thought I was the only one that didn't like the dub
Assimilater
2018-12-21 18:35:02 +0000 UTCHere I thought I was the only person on the planet who thought cowboy bebop's dub was nothing special...lol
Assimilater
2018-12-21 18:33:17 +0000 UTCFor the love of God do the subbed version
Markus Andre Midtbø Kjørsvik
2018-12-21 18:23:47 +0000 UTCI prefer the subbed version, but the dub is still good
Dennis van der Veen
2018-12-21 18:22:01 +0000 UTCPlease for the love of all that is holy do dubbed. Please. I never say that but this is one of the few anime I BEG people to watch dubbed. Watching subbed for this is a crime.
ednapls
2018-12-21 18:20:57 +0000 UTCNever tried CB. So I just like the idea of discovering a new show with you
astherphoenixxx96
2018-12-21 18:12:18 +0000 UTCI was hoping to watch it for the first time but if dub then drop xD
Black
2018-12-21 18:03:18 +0000 UTCHmm ppl say dub but imo the japanese VAs just do it better (it's the small reaction sounds and stuff) and Koichi Yamadera is ♥
Rita ★
2018-12-21 17:59:19 +0000 UTC99% of the time I'd say subbed, but this instance I wouldn't mind
Chase023
2018-12-21 17:54:51 +0000 UTCI will recommend the sub Version of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood when you decide to watch it :D An anime that you will really like :)
Prime Echo
2018-12-21 17:54:19 +0000 UTCI can't watch dubbed version, it is horrible.
savthe217
2018-12-21 17:53:08 +0000 UTCI won't watch it but I think you should try both and decide for yourself.
Prime Echo
2018-12-21 17:53:05 +0000 UTCI'm actually shocked people have actually voted for the sub. All of my Japanese friends prefer watching the English Dub w/ Japanese Subs rather than Japanese Dub lol
Jeffrey Su
2018-12-21 17:52:31 +0000 UTCWatched cowboy bebop in dub and you really can't go wrong with it, it had one of the better dubs I've seen in most anime, and I usually hate dubs.
Blue
2018-12-21 17:51:00 +0000 UTC👆🏾 that’s the best idea 👏🏾👏🏾
Barre Bonds
2018-12-21 17:49:46 +0000 UTCEither one is fine. I love both. Maybw you could try one episode with dub and one with sub.
Tzengjee Vahchuama
2018-12-21 17:49:33 +0000 UTCDo episode 1 in both and then decide
Jonathan
2018-12-21 17:49:10 +0000 UTCCrazy how many people voted for the sub the dub is what makes it a classic imo at least
Barre Bonds
2018-12-21 17:49:06 +0000 UTCDub. It’s the best English dub I’ve seen in anime, it’s a western nior show so its really fit really well.
NUCKY
2018-12-21 17:48:44 +0000 UTCOne of the very few dubs I enjoy. Go dub!
Brian
2018-12-21 17:48:38 +0000 UTCSub!
Plz2ez
2018-12-21 17:48:31 +0000 UTCThe dub for bebop is phenomenal. Go for it
Zana
2018-12-21 17:47:49 +0000 UTCDub without a doubt. I've heard even the Japanese prefer the Dub for this one
John S
2018-12-21 17:47:47 +0000 UTCMost definitely dub.
Steven Gerling
2018-12-21 17:47:45 +0000 UTCDub. Even most sub fans view Cowboy Bebop as one of the few anime better in dub.
GoldArthur
2018-12-21 17:47:16 +0000 UTCCowboy bebop is famous for the best dub of all time even the Japanese love the dub
Mizanul Alam
2018-12-21 17:47:06 +0000 UTCPersonally i'd say Sub because it's the original work, but whatever you like :)
Flávio Q
2018-12-21 17:46:47 +0000 UTCOh lord this is gonna end in a huge fight one way or the other lol.
PowderedToastMan
2018-12-21 17:46:44 +0000 UTCThe dub is actually pretty good ! You should give it a try.
Siddharth
2018-12-21 17:46:37 +0000 UTCI will end the poll in about 4 hours, I didn't have the setting to do that
Mechi
2018-12-21 17:46:05 +0000 UTC