Three Square Meals Ch. 176 (Placeholder)
Added 2024-07-01 03:50:38 +0000 UTCHey everyone,
I hate to have to do a second placeholder, but I will catch up and repay you for them... it's just going to take a few months.
I really want to pleasantly surprise everyone with a massive burst of productivity in July, so fingers crossed I can finally deliver on the backlog.
Best wishes,
Tefler
Comments
To limit the number of times you can be charged per month before the end of the year to take care of that pesky second placeholder. Go to Membership -> Edit -> Payment Amount -> Set Monthly Limit and enter "1".
Tom Ray
2024-12-22 11:07:08 +0000 UTCHey David, ... Maybe you missed the other partial of #169, from June 30th, .... nah that can't be it, cause the complete #169 would've filled it in, .... shrug, ... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-08-06 18:51:28 +0000 UTCI don’t see 168 downloading again with all the counterattacks added
David B
2024-07-30 18:06:04 +0000 UTCJust a heads up…my wife had gallbladder issues and had to have it removed. Not a fun experience. Agreed that he has dug himself a hole and seriously needs to put some effort into getting out of it but we will see. I agree that he (Tefler) is a hell of an author, I wish him the best of luck.
John Brewer
2024-07-30 15:18:00 +0000 UTCIt appears that you are not looking at the most recent version of ch. 168. Look for the post of Ch.168 (completed) from May 1st and re-download. Nb// If you already have an incomplete copy of Ch.168 saved the new file might be automatically saved as Chapter 168(1) or some other variation on that name by your PC. My advice is it is probably best you delete the file you already have before re-downloading the completed Ch.168 to avoid any confusion that could arise.
Unresolved Plots
2024-07-30 13:02:55 +0000 UTCI just re-downloaded ch 168 to check, and it ends with Gahl's counterattack. Did you download the completed 168 file? There was one before which was just half the chapter. If that doesn't work, I'd assume it's a problem with the download not completing fully.
Andrew Shultes
2024-07-29 17:16:53 +0000 UTCAll I see is John making the other Prog bleed, and then the chapter 169 Alyssa is groaning and so is John. When did the Prog counterattack?? It’s not in 168??
David B
2024-07-29 16:19:58 +0000 UTCAll I see is John making the other Prog bleed, and then the chapter 169 Alyssa is groaning and so is John. When did the Prog counterattack?? It’s not in 168??
David B
2024-07-29 16:19:35 +0000 UTCI am confused about the beginning of 169. Can someone explain what happened between the end of 168 and the beginning of 169?
David B
2024-07-29 16:18:01 +0000 UTCI am confused about the beginning of 169. Can someone explain what happened between the end of 168 and the beginning of 169?
David B
2024-07-29 16:17:22 +0000 UTCThank you for moaning about the moaning. Your moan has been added and cataloged in the generic moan collective under "Moaner's who moaned about Moaning"
Evilebob
2024-07-29 16:00:40 +0000 UTCYou Are still going to read the story no matter what the offering is. It’s really pointless to continue to moan about it.
Kevin Murray
2024-07-29 08:45:36 +0000 UTCCompleted 169 & 1 more placeholder. Probably the gallbladder issue has ballooned into further degradation of his overall health and left him incapable of writing/working at this time
Spellman72
2024-07-29 04:09:25 +0000 UTChealth!
stephen mincher
2024-07-28 19:34:31 +0000 UTCstephen's is probably the most likely but don't forget to include your excuse predictions as well.
Evilebob
2024-07-28 18:06:50 +0000 UTCend of 169 + 2ph
stephen mincher
2024-07-28 17:41:00 +0000 UTCNot bad as far as predictions go. I think you're being pretty generous with 2 whole chapters but I loved the excuse. Well done. Who else has predictions for this month? Keep em coming.
Evilebob
2024-07-28 14:58:54 +0000 UTCSo I reckon it's a pretty solid bet that on the 31st he will release ... oh I don't know ... 2 or maybe 3 chapters and then precharge us for another 2. I know you guys hate placeholders but my goldfish died and my backlawn was infested with weeds and this one time - I got a headache and I just couldn't do any more work.
Korzic
2024-07-28 14:07:07 +0000 UTCA small amount for the enjoyment that I've gotten out of the story. Tefler is a gifted writer and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm not impatient.
raymond sisko
2024-07-27 20:33:58 +0000 UTCThere once was a man, Tom Ray, Whose posts left us all in dismay. He'd write, "Not worth the key strokes," Just to garner some pokes, Making non-replies his mainstay. He'd declare, "This isn't a post," While his comments still filled up the most. A master of naught, In his web we were caught, For he’d boast about nothing with boast. Tom Ray, the enigma of chats, Spinning words that were hollow like gnats. With each non-reply, He’d mystify, Leaving substance as flat as old mats.
Evilebob
2024-07-27 16:42:47 +0000 UTCWhat a F'n Idiot. not worth the key strokes to reply to.
Tom Ray
2024-07-27 15:19:09 +0000 UTCOh yeah, -- salivating, drooling and losing sleep, .... I am so looking forward to Tef concluding chapter # 169, and hopefully dropping another chapter or two (#170 and #171 ), .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-26 22:02:43 +0000 UTCnah. I'm on pins and needles for the next installment of the UK healthcare saga. Can anybody predict what happened this month?
Evilebob
2024-07-26 21:37:48 +0000 UTCIs anyone else salivating to get the conclusion of chapter 169 and get chapters 170 through 176?
John Brewer
2024-07-26 20:23:24 +0000 UTCIt's a buck a month.. not going to break the budget. I would like more updates on how he's doing though.
William Lillard
2024-07-24 00:40:02 +0000 UTCOh that makes more sense, as you guessed I was thinking summary, not month. Thank you for the info.
Jokers 9453
2024-07-23 13:24:06 +0000 UTC.... placeholder count -- chapters #170 thru to placeholder #176, ... yep, that's seven (7) entire chapters, .... plus, the remainder of chapter #169, to be completed, .... I hope Tef keeps moving the story forward, a little at a time, if that is all he can manage presently,, ... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-23 07:26:51 +0000 UTCyup, that's about right. If you mean in response to his post "I hate to have to do a second placeholder,", that's more in reference to his practice of creating two empty charged posts in one month, ie a second placeholder. This is not a summary of all the placeholders currently in queue as you have noticed.
Evilebob
2024-07-23 06:08:04 +0000 UTCI currently count 7 place holders not just 2.
Jokers 9453
2024-07-23 05:47:57 +0000 UTCThere once was a fortuneteller, Tom Ray, Who'd predict what you'd do the next day. "Your alarm will ring loud, You'll get lost in the crowd," His insights were as fresh as old hay. Tom Ray had a fortune to tell, But his insights were dull as a bell. He'd say, "Rain makes you wet," Or, "Dogs make a pet," His crystal ball skills? Hard to sell. With a crystal ball he would proclaim, "The sun will rise, and life’s much the same." His clients would scoff, As he took the day off, Tom Ray's prophecies were quite lame. In a world full of magic and gleam, Tom Ray's prophecies seemed like a scheme. But for all his dull lore, He'd predict nothing more, Just the mundane, the common, the routine.
Evilebob
2024-07-22 12:37:39 +0000 UTCSo you are a poet and didn't fucking know it??? try to be original next time. LOL
Tom Ray
2024-07-22 07:58:22 +0000 UTCHey Jim owns a Calander, .... Tefler and EOM chapter drops, .... that is the normal for our author, .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-22 04:45:42 +0000 UTCThere once was a fellow named Jim, Whose optimism never grew dim. Through rain or through shine, He'd always opine, "The glass is half full to the brim!" Old Jim had a positive spin, Always grinning, no matter the din. While we slogged through the grime, He'd chirp, "It's just fine!" And we'd wonder what world he was in. Jim faced life's trials with a grin, Seeing light where others saw sin. Though we'd scoff and we'd jeer, We all held him dear, And hoped he'd never lose his optimistic spin.
Evilebob
2024-07-22 03:08:35 +0000 UTCWhat's Your point Kevin Murry? *Error: Point not found, please retry in a point driven community. *
Evilebob
2024-07-22 02:59:59 +0000 UTCwere quickly approaching August and still.....nothing. but im optimistic.
Jim Owens
2024-07-22 01:39:58 +0000 UTCWhat's your point evilbob?
Kevin Murray
2024-07-21 23:54:17 +0000 UTCYour fortune telling skills are amazing, like the way you look into an indefinite string of repeating events and predicted the same event again in sequence is like blowing my mind, but please look again into your crystal 8ball and tell me how much of an actual product are we to see at the end of the month?
Evilebob
2024-07-21 13:46:01 +0000 UTCSo ??
Robster
2024-07-21 12:12:41 +0000 UTCjust more place holders I am betting... prove me wrong...
Tom Ray
2024-07-21 08:07:17 +0000 UTCso far no massive bursts... LOL I knew there wouldn't be...
Tom Ray
2024-07-21 08:06:13 +0000 UTCFollowing for 8 years now Tef. Since the LitErotica days when this series started. Get caught up. The original chapter 1 was 4.5k words.
Jeff Combes
2024-07-20 03:18:24 +0000 UTCAnd Yeah Dominic, that is pretty close to what I said, to deny Tef funds out of, anger, spite, crazy thoughts, .... anyway, you argue against yourself, KeepitSimple and now David, .... good luck in life, ... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-20 01:10:07 +0000 UTCTef, man get your act together. Other Youtube authors are using your IP. You're getting paid. Deliver.
David Fraley
2024-07-19 23:15:58 +0000 UTCThat’s Not at all what he was saying. I honestly can’t figure out how you came to that conclusion. We all want more chapters. But lately Tefler has been posting partial chapters (already paid for) while charging ahead for multiple chapters undelivered, even though we were already owed several chapters. He’s saying we would ALL miss the storyline if it came to an end, but not as much as Tefler would miss the $8,000-$20,000 per month he’d receive in Subscriptions. We have an incentive to keep it patronage active. Tefler has a MUCH larger incentive to keep writing.
EroticPoetic
2024-07-19 22:15:46 +0000 UTC@Tefler Hope you feel better soon.
!raptor
2024-07-19 17:14:23 +0000 UTCHUH? -- I got pieces of your thoughts, .... but all that really came through was your wish to deny Tefler funds, .... because, you want more story, Now, ... ? or something like that? ... :-( ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-19 15:07:25 +0000 UTCLimit exposure to reduce frustration in being left with as yet to be fulfilled promises. Find authors like Funatic and Kaiserwolf. 700/1722 chapters in on The Gamer from Funatic and only going to be checking on Tef every couple of months. Would miss storyline here coming to an end but not as much as Tef would not getting paid to write it....
Keepit simple
2024-07-19 14:21:15 +0000 UTCI desperately want more chapters, but placeholders don’t irritate me too much. Tefler had written over 130 chapters before I joined Patreon. So I received 130 chapters for free. If it reaches the point of 130 placeholders, I’ll decide if it’s worth getting upset. I hope Tefler’s getting better, even if we never see another chapter.
HillCountryCowboy
2024-07-17 06:26:15 +0000 UTC-- Last year, Tefler was diagnosed by the wonderful UK healthcare system as his having a significant Gallbladder infection, .... then he has been repeatedly put off for curing his ailment for months, ... I do not know the why's and how's as to why he can't pay for independent care, but that's his lookout, .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-16 23:13:53 +0000 UTCBTW Who said Tefler was sick, (every excuses you can think of since he does not communicate) I think that I know what ails him, he just got so caught up in the story that he was ill prepared for the success of the story and didn't catch up because he didn’t create a story line to follow, on top of that I think he has a writer’s block, but still needs an income
William Wallace
2024-07-16 20:39:07 +0000 UTCKeep on dreaming
William Wallace
2024-07-16 20:32:02 +0000 UTCTef's non existant response: Hey Big Dude, I can sense the frustration through the screen, and believe me, I get it. July 15th has indeed come and gone without the promised update, and for that, I owe you an explanation. But first, let’s clear the air with a dose of the absurd reality that has been my life these past few weeks. To begin with, I've been contending with an unforeseen bout of “Intergalactic Limb Transformation Syndrome” (ILTS). My legs, already swollen from cellulitis, decided to turn a vibrant shade of cosmic purple. Apparently, this rare condition is a beacon for curious alien species, who have been flocking to my bedside to pay homage to what they believe is a newly-anointed oracle. Negotiating peace treaties and explaining the basics of Earth’s medical system to bewildered extraterrestrials has taken up an alarming amount of time. Secondly, the time-loop anomaly. Yes, you read that right. My ship has been caught in a bizarre temporal flux, causing days to slip by unnoticed. To me, July 15th might as well be a figment of some distant future. Every attempt to write has been thwarted by these relentless loops, forcing me to live the same frustrating minutes over and over. It's like "Groundhog Day" but without the charming small-town vibe. And then there's the asteroid incident. A rogue asteroid, deflected from its original path by a particularly feisty comet, decided to pay my ship a visit. While the damage was mostly superficial, the repair bots, with their questionable prioritization, decided to focus on enhancing the aesthetic appeal of my vessel rather than restoring full functionality. Imagine trying to write while being serenaded by welding sparks and cheerful robot banter. Of course, the infamous holographic sheep haven't made things any easier. They’ve joined forces with the ship’s AI, staging what can only be described as a cyber-coup. My manuscript files are now encrypted in a dialect so ancient, it’s practically hieroglyphic. Negotiating with a flock of sentient holograms for access to my own work has become a daily routine. And then, there are the ongoing health issues. Balancing a laptop on my lap while keeping my legs elevated has been as effective as trying to juggle flaming torches with one hand tied behind my back. The antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and steroids have turned my daily existence into a foggy, drowsy haze. Lucidity comes in short, unpredictable bursts, during which I scramble to make any progress on the manuscript. So there you have it—my life in a nutshell. I know these excuses sound absurd, and trust me, I wish they were fiction. I'm as eager as you are to move past this endless series of delays and deliver the updates and chapters you all deserve. Your patience and support mean the world to me, and I genuinely appreciate every bit of it. Thanks for sticking with me through this cosmic comedy of errors. I’m committed to getting back on track and delivering the content you’ve been waiting for. Stay tuned for my next inevitable update when rent is due and I double charge for two more future chapters. Here’s to hoping the universe finally decides to give me a break. Best wishes, Not Tef
Evilebob
2024-07-16 15:05:45 +0000 UTCHey Big Dude, you might look back to as far as 2015, and you'd likely find that ole Tef just is not in the habit of sending out updates unless it is at the EOM (of a payday month), ... I have been a TSM fan since 2017, so I have grown used to our author's weak communication habits, ... --- Hang in there Tef, get well soon, .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-16 14:26:46 +0000 UTCYou are not sad, just stating facts from many whom agree nonconformist! A medical update will assuage ALL the negative thoughts here.
Big Dude
2024-07-16 10:51:39 +0000 UTCUmmm, no Mr. Sycophant. In law, an unfinished chapter is counted as undelivered. There are no partial deliveries dude. Do you pay for a cheeseburger without the fries and slaw when you ordered all three? Do you pay for a delivered car missing essential accessories? Maybe in your world you do but not in mine. Tefler has written the best science fiction tome since Isaac Asimovs' books, but he has lost much good will by not alerting his followers to his medical plight until month end. Plain and simple..
Big Dude
2024-07-16 10:45:10 +0000 UTCTefler, as you can view, the natives are restless. Earlier in this thread, I suggested a July 15th update. That date has left the building. Why is there no update? You claim you know we hate placeholders, yet nary a peep from you. Now I expect the standard sycophants to sycophant this post. Just a health update please.
Big Dude
2024-07-16 10:37:30 +0000 UTC.... just a sad nonconformist, ..... oh well, it takes all kinds to make up the world, .... get well Tef, we need you, .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-16 09:37:29 +0000 UTCTo all the patron's that are unhappy about being charged for placeholder's, do exactly as Robster said to do in his comment. I have been doing this since January and am able to check my Patreon member page to see if Tefler has written anything. I have chosen not to pay for placeholder's or partial chapters. When Tefler has something new I upgrade my membership and pay again.
Nonconformist
2024-07-16 09:11:35 +0000 UTCHey Braveheart, ... yeah, you were correct, #170 thru #176 is 7 placeholder chapters, and along with the 1/4 of a chapter (#169) left to be completed, .... so, everyone else's math says that's 7.25 chapters Tef owes us, not 8 chapters, .... sure hope he's feeling up to it, .... a little placeholder catch-up at End of July would be great, .... ;-) ttfn,
Michael56Smith
2024-07-15 20:43:53 +0000 UTCSo ?? What i stated still stands 😉
Robster
2024-07-15 15:11:09 +0000 UTCI don't know how you count but 169 not finished, 170 , 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176 are 8 chapters in my book!
William Wallace
2024-07-15 12:57:24 +0000 UTC@Florida Reader Thanks for that. I'll stick around to offer my support, but wanted to point out that there might have been an unexpected problem with the proposed cancelling/resubscribing option, where the fees already paid for placeholder chapters will have to be paid again upon resubscribing (I think). Three other observations, if I may: 1. I am impressed by the volume and passion of the comments - it shows that Tef has created a universe that people really care about. I suspect that references to monetary investment are actually more about emotional investment. Fans are frustrated and disappointed about delayed-gratification, and attempt to rationalise their emotional response by logical analysis. However it is comparing apples with oranges, and will never prove satisfying to the disgruntled few. 2. I think Tef would be better served by removing reference to 'membership' in Patreon, and replacing it with another term such as 'contribution level'. Fans are presuming a contractual relationship, where some feel entitled to demand 'quid pro quo' from Tef in return for their sponsorship. As you so rightly and frequesntly note, this is a patronage situation, where the fans are voluntarily choosing to support a beloved author to foster his remarkable creativity. It should not be confused with pay-per-chapter as in a contractual arrangement. 3. A week or two ago, I read several (about a dozen I think) comments from Tefler responding to fans' comments. I hadn't seen him do that before, and was very pleased that he seemed to have taken to heart the oft-stated criticism of his poor communications. However now I cannot find any of those comments from him. I know that I did not imagine them. I wonder if they have been removed, and if so, why?
Perry Carruthers
2024-07-14 03:22:20 +0000 UTC"Just yesterday, while attempting to write, I found myself trapped in a time loop, reliving the same agonizing minute repeatedly until I managed to outsmart the loop with a hastily written sonnet. This time dilation effect means that what feels like hours of writing results in mere seconds of actual progress." Mehaps think this is one of the best descriptions of writer's block I have ever seen. Bravo, Evilebob.
Florida Reader
2024-07-13 06:41:52 +0000 UTC@Perry Caruthers So the best you can do is as follows: 1) Limit the number of charged posts you allow per month to a single post. No matter how many placeholders or actual chapters Tefler posts, you are charged only for one each month. By the way, you will not be charged if Tefler does not charge any posts in a month. 2) Limit your per-charged post contribution to the amount you are willing to donate to Tefler in a given month, even if he doesn't post a new chapter. This amount can be as low as one dollar. 3) If you get frustrated and leave, convert to a free membership. You will not be able to read new charged content (or previous charged content), but you will be able to be notified as new posts occur. This is no different than what happens when you leave any Patreon subscription. 4) After you leave, when you feel that enough charged content has been posted to justify signing up again, do the same as steps one and two: Limit the number of posts you are willing to be charged for in a month and limit the amount you pay per charged posts. As said before, this can be as little as one dollar, and you are then given access to all the prior content. I realize Tefler could simplify this by implementing a monthly subscription, but that is different from where we are right now. I have learned that arguing against reality is usually a losing proposition. In the meantime, the above subscription strategy is the closest to addressing your worries, Perry.
Florida Reader
2024-07-13 06:22:05 +0000 UTCFor all complainers... just leave and return after 13 months and download all the chapters for 1 dollar.. some work but it does the trick. I wine and moan about the no go communication .. for now i have invested $7 for non chaps.. that is not even 2 beers in a bar.. i just drink less🤪🤪🤪 this month
Robster
2024-07-12 18:54:45 +0000 UTCShe just went in for a refill because she forgot meds in the US. It wasn't insulin, it was another medication. She told her to drink green tea instead. Fortunately we buy the insurance so she could come back quickly.
Johnkr
2024-07-12 12:39:52 +0000 UTCI empathise with Tef, and want to continue supporting him. However I agree with Derrick that Tef is doing himself and his loyal fanbase a disservice when he goes 'radio-silent' for extended periods. I get that his health interferes with his writing, but surely a brief weekly status report is not too much to ask, especially asTef is asking for our ongoing goodwill. Trust and respect must be earned. I should give Tef credit for being MUCH more engaged in the comments this month - so please keep doing that, as it relieves a lot of anxiety in those that care about you and your work. At the risk of causing unrest, I would like to ask a question that has been concerning me ... With the Patreon membership, we prepay the placeholder charges. How does one stop being liable for future charges, and still receive the chapters already paid-for-in-advance? In other words, does cancellation of the Patreon membership cause the loss of the chapters already paid-for? If so (and I really hesitate to say this) it would mean that there is no way to prevent future placeholders being charged to your account without cancelling the entire membership, which I am pretty sure is illegal in the UK and several other countries such as USA, Canada and Australia.
Perry Carruthers
2024-07-12 05:11:17 +0000 UTCWhat? What doctor tells a patient with diabetes that they won't give them insulin because they rely too much on it? I was born at night but not tonight yea fkin right guy...
Xexsu
2024-07-12 04:36:21 +0000 UTCMy sister-in-law went to England and forgot to bring her diabetes meds, they would not give her any because Americans rely too much on medication. Her foot swelled up to the size of an American football and they wanted to amputate. Our family doctor who we have had for 39 years vetoed that and told her to come home. She still has her foot and is be bopping along for 8 years now. That's why I still give tefler money.
Johnkr
2024-07-12 00:20:36 +0000 UTCI’m supporting at $2 a chapter so that’s $6. I’m sorry if that’s a financial strain on you.
Hephaestus Hugh
2024-07-11 05:48:02 +0000 UTCFor now, that is why I continue to contribute at the level that I choose to, hoping that Tefler will continue to write and produce decent content—even if it is not as quickly as I might desire. Because I am choosing to continue contributing under the current practices, I think whining would be insincere. As we move forward, if Tefler fails to continue publishing some updates every 30-45 days, I will re-evaluate my position. I hope it does not come to that.
Florida Reader
2024-07-11 04:17:44 +0000 UTC@Unresolved Plots -- I see what you did there. Splinter would be proud.
Florida Reader
2024-07-11 04:13:03 +0000 UTCTef's Progenitor Chronicles #254 Star Date: 6745.07.03 Day Sixty-One in the Nexus Nebula Ah, Big Dude, how noble your optimism, yet how misplaced in the swirling chaos that is my existence. The stars themselves would weep at the prospect of Chapters 169 Part 3 and 170 materializing before July 15th. Allow me to explain, with the grandiose flair this dire situation deserves, why such a miraculous feat is as likely as a black hole spontaneously reversing its gravitational pull. Firstly, the interstellar alignment required for such productivity is currently in disarray. The Progenitor calendar indicates that the constellation Scribbulus, the celestial guide for writers, is in retrograde. This cosmic phenomenon wreaks havoc on creativity, reducing my prose to mere cosmic dust. Secondly, my spaceship has developed an unprecedented affinity for temporal anomalies. Just yesterday, while attempting to write, I found myself trapped in a time loop, reliving the same agonizing minute repeatedly until I managed to outsmart the loop with a hastily written sonnet. This time dilation effect means that what feels like hours of writing results in mere seconds of actual progress. Furthermore, the holographic sheep, those digital devourers of data, have staged a coup. They’ve taken control of my manuscript files, encrypting them with codes only decipherable through an ancient Progenitor dialect lost to time. The decryption process involves a series of complex rituals and interpretive dances, none of which I’ve mastered yet. And then, of course, there’s my health. My legs, swollen like gas giants, have reached a level of discomfort that even the most advanced Progenitor medicine struggles to alleviate. Balancing a laptop on my lap while elevating said legs requires the dexterity of a circus contortionist—an act I’ve yet to perfect. The antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and steroids have joined forces in a biochemical conspiracy, leaving me in a state of perpetual drowsiness and hallucinations where my characters come to life and demand rewrites at the most inconvenient times. Lastly, the quantum flux surrounding the Nexus has intensified, causing sporadic power surges that erase entire paragraphs in the blink of an eye. I’ve resorted to writing on parchment with quills salvaged from my ancestor’s archives, only to have the ink mysteriously vanish at dawn. So, dear Big Dude, while the idea of delivering Chapter 169 Part 3 and Chapter 170 by July 15th is a delightful fantasy, the reality of my cosmic predicament makes it as feasible as colonizing a supernova. As for Mr. 56 and his imminent chastisement, I welcome his attempts; perhaps he can lend a hand in outsmarting these rebellious sheep or stabilizing the temporal anomalies. Until then, I remain your beleaguered scribe, battling the universe’s whims with every ounce of my Progenitor resilience. Thank you for your patience and understanding. The cosmos, as ever, remains unpredictable, but your fiscal support is the guiding star in this turbulent journey.
Evilebob
2024-07-11 02:17:10 +0000 UTCIm sure many are curious what the Thrall Fleets and progenitor dreadnaught look like. It would be cool if you did a nice render of that artwork.
Jim Owens
2024-07-10 23:41:12 +0000 UTCim just worried that something will happen and thats it, no more of this fabulous story will be written. I sincerely hope you are recovering well. You might want to think about contacting another excellent writer to take up the story should your health take an apocalyptic turn. No one wants to see this end ever, till its done. We are all very anxiously awaiting 7 new chapters at a minimum.
Jim Owens
2024-07-10 23:37:34 +0000 UTC@Woodrobin. Its interesting that the four you mention were all trained by a rat! Also its not surprising Michelangelo took ages to finish, he had the reputation of being a party dude!
Unresolved Plots
2024-07-10 22:31:36 +0000 UTCSure. Ass cheeks. I got it. Your other point is fair -- I understand people wanting to leave in frustration. Totally get it.
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 21:40:13 +0000 UTCOk. So, there are better ways for Tefler to do things. He is not, and that is a fair criticism. But we all know this, and have known it for some time. Are you still operating under the illusion that he will catch up before he charges again? You need to choose whether you want to continue your support or not. It is fairly simple. You can always leave and come back when there are sufficient posts to justify you spending a dollar. However, continual bitching, moaning and complaining is pathetic and weak.
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 21:38:13 +0000 UTCActually, the pope tolerated it for quite some time and then beat Michelangelo with a stick, only because it was the Sistine Chapel. That being said, Patreon was never supposed to be about strict business transactions.
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 21:32:55 +0000 UTCDon't be a semantic half-wit. Patrons of the arts have expected those they patronize to actually produce art since Day One. How long do you think the Pope would have put up with Michelangelo putzing around instead of finishing the Sistine Chapel ceiling mural? I'll give you a clue: he literally beat Michelangelo with a stick for not getting work done as quickly as the Pope expected. Da Vinci, Donatello, Raphael, and on and on actually produced the work they proposed to their patrons before receiving said patronage.
Woodrobin
2024-07-09 19:23:53 +0000 UTCThere is an existing model: per-month charging. It doesn't involve the promise of delivered content the way per-unit (in Tefler's case, per-chapter) does. Of course, it also doesn't allow for charging for months that haven't started yet, either.
Woodrobin
2024-07-09 19:17:15 +0000 UTCFlorida Reader, it's hard to hear your words when they're as muffled by Tefler's ass cheeks as they are. In seriousness, though: you don't get to dictate whether or not other people feel the limits of their trust and good graces have been crossed. And Patreon has rules about pre-charging when charging per unit of work as Tefler is doing, of which Tefler is in clear violation. He could charge monthly and avoid that issue, but there's no option to pre-charge for months that haven't occurred yet, so he couldn't get as many advances on income as he can get people to tolerate if he did that.
Woodrobin
2024-07-09 19:11:27 +0000 UTCThe definition of Patron: 'a person who supports with money, gifts, efforts, or endorsement an artist, writer, museum, cause, charity, institution, special event, or the like:' I don't see anything out output, or any guarantees there, etc. Are you a Patron or a whiner? Because you can't be both.
Cignal
2024-07-09 17:34:44 +0000 UTC@William Wallace Nothing, I do it for free. I am in the same boat as you. But I don't put down honest complainers. Now habitual whiners ... totally different story. Have a good day/night/afternoon/happy hour (wherever you are), William. Cheers :)
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 12:39:35 +0000 UTCHow much is Tef paying you to put honest complainers down with a guilty feeling, because they payed and didn't get what they are due, quit being an ASS.Nobody is interested in your ramblings, but it looks you have a lot of time to waste!!
William Wallace
2024-07-09 09:14:35 +0000 UTCBut he didn't ask. He just waits until last minute and double charges placeholders. He's been writing 169 for over 2 months and still can't get it done. Let's say he had a regular 9-5 job. So far by technicality he hasn't shown up or produced anything for over 2 months. Do you think he would still have said job. I get it a guy still has to eat but if he can't make what is essentially a years pay last until he gets caught up then I'm pretty sure he has a way bigger issue. I don't want to quit on his sorry ass but this is getting ridiculous.
Timtom
2024-07-09 08:11:54 +0000 UTCI see your point. It is quite a bit of money donated by patrons over an 18-month time span. Many patrons limit the number of charges Tefler can draw in a month, so the actual number Tefler has taken in from placeholders is probably closer to $40,000 -- but it is still a lot of money. It is about $2,200 per month over the past eighteen months. While not chump change, when one breaks the numbers down, it is not eye-popping either. I have been contributing since early 2017. When this started to occur, I limited the number of posts Tefler could charge me for in a given month. Instead of being charged for seven placeholders, I have only been charged for four. The situation we find ourselves in with Tefler and the story is not ideal. Dealing with missed expectations and broken commitments is frustrating, to put it mildly. I accept it because I want to see the story continue, and I have no illusions—Tefler will continue charging at least monthly regardless of whether he meets his deadlines. I realize Tefler is unlikely to catch up, but I will continue to contribute as long as he outputs decent content every 30-50 days. If it gets worse, I can reconsider my level of support. Chapter 169 is a fairly massive chapter, and even if it isn't quite finished, it could have easily been divided into three chapters. I give Tefler credit for continuing to create quality in the midst of this mess, and I hope he continues to do so.
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 07:23:17 +0000 UTCThat was some serious shit you fell into there, sir. I am glad you recovered.
Florida Reader
2024-07-09 07:10:11 +0000 UTCSo far, we have placeholders for chapters with no content yet completed for Chapters 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, and 176 -- seven (7) chapters charged for with no content yet seen. Not to mention that Chapter 169 has also been charged ahead for and is not yet fully completed. At a bit over 7,000 per chapter (according to information from Patreon on the per-update revenue), that's over 49,000 in income for work not yet completed. That's equivalent to a middle to upper-middle class hourly wage employee getting a year or more advance on their wages. I'd struggle to fit through doors with the kind of balls I'd have to have to ask for a year's advance from my employer, but that's essentially what Tefler has allowed himself to do.
Woodrobin
2024-07-09 06:20:25 +0000 UTCI spent 6 months in hospital with 3 broken vertebrae without loosing a day of work (self employed as a translator for th courts) no work no food, sometimes I had to request a painkiller, but not to much need all 3 brain cells that was in 2019 and I can do nearly everything walking with a walker except car bike and bicycle riding, due to nerve damage What I want to come across is If you really want you can remember Gunny in Heartbreak ridge “We're paid to adapt, to improvise, adapt & overcome
William Wallace
2024-07-08 16:10:57 +0000 UTC@Dave Tameres-Little No doubt you have cause for frustration. However, your complaint that your hypothetical supporter spent $72.00 for an unfinished tome is misplaced. Your hypothetical supporter paid $72 to access posts as they came out and engage with the community. Your hypothetical supporter also may have had intangible values that led them to join and contribute, including gratitude for the author's work and the sense of supporting an author as the author writes. This is typical of Patreon supporters. If your hypothetical supporter wanted to limit their outlay of $$$, they would have been wiser to contribute only every couple of months for one post and then download to read every chapter offline. A new contributor to Tefler can easily download everything he has written and quit, having only spent $1 as a Terrain Marine Supporter. If patrons choose to cancel their paid subscription now, they can wait until Tefler posts enough chapters to satisfy them and then join back up for a dollar, downloading everything they have missed. Of course, if a sufficient number do this, it may impact the likelihood of Tefler continuing to be able to write additional chapters. It is a quandary. So, while I get your frustration, it is somewhat misplaced. Further, every fan of any series lives at the mercy of whether the author completes the next book (still waiting for George R.R. Martin). Here, we await the next chapter -- having already enjoyed a stunning 168 chapters of decent content. @Gky While your point is amusing, it is neither factually nor legally accurate. Patreon is not a fee-for-service website. It is patronage for supporters and creators. In Tefler's case, there are 6,070 members, of which 4,361 are paid members. Think of it like a GoFundMe model with fewer restraints. The project is not required to conclude successfully; only that the people behind it make a good faith effort. Patrons are expected to choose their level of support and make value judgments on whether they want to adjust their level of support or drop it altogether.
Florida Reader
2024-07-08 01:07:20 +0000 UTC@Gky I understand that you don't read. Qualifying it was unnecessary. I agree that your responses have been jokes, although I am not so sure you have intended them to be. I am glad you have had fun. When next we get together, after she finishes swallowing, I will tell your mom "Hi!" from you.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 23:36:55 +0000 UTC@Gky She really was that good...
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 23:32:06 +0000 UTC7k from one person for undelivered goods? Crime. 7k from 2000 people? Eh, that's fine! Stop whining!
Gky
2024-07-07 23:23:20 +0000 UTCI don't read your larger posts. Frankly I've got better things to do. My comments on Tefler's posts have always been good faith criticisms meant to point out what I see as unfair or unethical practices. My responses to you are jokes, because your comments are so unabashedly lacking in objectivity that it's genuinely really fun to sling shit at you. You sling it back in a consistently hypocritical way that it's a delight. I'll be honest, this has been a fun diversion for the last two days but Tefler's not getting caught up any time soon and you're not going to suddenly become self-aware so I'm out for the foreseeable future. Take a bow. Pat yourself in the back. I'll see you in a few months. Tell mom I said hi!
Gky
2024-07-07 23:21:57 +0000 UTCJust call her and tell her you miss her. It's weird you guys make me the go-between...
Gky
2024-07-07 23:16:46 +0000 UTCI accept your submission, Gky. It is nice to know you recognize defeat for what it is.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 23:14:34 +0000 UTCSo now I am your toilet partner as well. Wow, our relationship continues to grow. And I certainly agree with your statement that "[Tefler is] a terrible communicator and behaves in an unethical way regarding his supporters' money and time." That is a fair observation.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 23:11:23 +0000 UTCI hear you. But I question whether Tefler will be able to catch up if he doesn't continue charging. I don't know what model he needs to go to, but the placeholder model is not working well. It certainly is not a crowd satisifer.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 23:06:46 +0000 UTCI suppose I should go pick on someone my own size. I realize I stooped down many levels to engage with @Gky. It really is pretty easy to find the ignorance in his commentary. And @Gky -- I have known some exceptional twats, so I do not find it to be an insult. Like your mom, for example...
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 21:43:51 +0000 UTC@GKY Spoken like one with the knowledge of an artisan.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 21:38:40 +0000 UTC@Gky Actually, I lash out at people who play victim but are in fact just trolling. Were you just a source of criticism, you would have never drawn my attention. You earned it when you started spouting off mean-spirited, poorly thought out drivel. I am impressed that you looked up and perhaps synthesized an article on criticism. I agree that it can help you improve. I hope it does. Criticism is one thing: Tefler has failed to keep commitments he made. Tefler created placeholders when he said he would not do so any longer. Tefler is far behind where he had indicated he would be, and it does not appear he is catching up anytime soon. Tefler does not communicate frequently with his patrons and leaves them in the dark wondering what is going on. I could continue with many more. I wasn't too thrilled with the whole Traitor Tom theme and trial with the Brimorians. These are criticisms. And they are well known, even well-founded. Yet, you still persist in whining and playing the victim even though you supposedly know all these things. If you are supporting him, then you know what you are in for. So, the constant complaining is pathetic. It's just noise, the noise of one who continues to cause the very complaints he raises to the almighty without any insight or reflection. You assume I want to forgive Tefler. I understand his motivations and the pickle he finds himslef in. I choose to continue supporting him because I like the story, and I believe it is in my self-interest to do what I can to help him continue it. I know he will continue to charge me for chapters that are not delivered. Ranting at him will not achieve anything, in fact it is more likely counter productive. Quitting my support at this time simply increases the probability that he does not continue. If I calculated things differently, I would make a different decision. I have spent some time thinking about what to make of Tefler's behavior vis-a-vis my desire to see the story continue. This is where I am at today. I don't know if I my approach could be considered patient, tolerant or forgiving. I consider it more based on self-interest. This particular reply is made after reading your comment and questioning whether I may have been too harsh on you. We are not friends, even if you have already proposed marriage to me and stated your love, called me dad, and pushed your mom on me. We shall see if I misjudged you. There may be hope for you someday (emphasis on the use of the weak potential form of the declaritive). For the record, I can definitely appreciate even that with which I disagree. EvileBob's satrical creations are a thing of beauty.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 21:32:29 +0000 UTCMy replies to you are silly because that's the level of effort you deserve homie. You take yourself so seriously here, in this comment section about a sex book... it's a little sad that you write these massive essays. I literally only respond to you while in the toilet. That's the level of interest I have here. I like Tefler's sex stories, but he's a terrible communicator and behaves in an unethical way in regards to his supporters money and time. As for you...? I mean, you clearly have a lot of free time. I guess I'm glad you've got something to fill it with.
Gky
2024-07-07 21:06:05 +0000 UTCYou don't need a partner to spar, FR, you just need to feel important. Your comments clearly fulfill that need for you, so I'm happy you have that. As for what you actively contribute to this community, that's another discussion altogether.
Gky
2024-07-07 21:04:12 +0000 UTC@Gky I think you were trying to be witty, and you almost succeeded. The literal interpretation of what your wrote is as follows: Your comments always succeed at making me want to ignore (not read) them. If you were referring to Dominic Janning's comment, maybe it works. Although Dominic's comment is a heart-felt whine, misplaced as it may be for reasons I have described elsewhere. And he doesn't comment that often. If you were referring to the reply from @EvileBob (who comments all the time), I think you missed the mark. EB's awesome satire requires one to read through it by the sheer nature of its creative gravitas. Whether one agrees with EB or not, his satircal posts are a wonderful outlet to engage in the enui that is generated by Tefler's placehodlers. So, I think you probably intended something to the effect: Dear @EvileBob Your comments always fail at making me want to not read your comments. I might have phrased it: Your satirical commentary invariably fails at enteraining me not in great measure. You are welcome.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 20:55:01 +0000 UTC@Gky There is a reason I call your intellect into question. I am trying to clue you in on something here -- Hint: Your responses are not very smart. As for laughing, I have enjoyed laughing at you this entire time. While laughing with you might be nice, it would require you to rise up a few levels. Maybe graduate from anal jokes, or move away from projecting oral insecurities. Heck -- not spending time projecting your masturbation fixations or your interesting relationship with your mother might be a step up. Until then, I will continue to laugh at you.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 20:36:21 +0000 UTCWhile there appears to be some introspection in your latest comment (perhaps there is hope for you one day), you have yet to absorb the fact that you went beyond voicing complaints and striaght to shit-posting. And when you did post crap, they were poorly reasoned statements of victimization which are untrue or snide reactions to others' honest posts. No, the label of "pot stirrer" applies to your behavior, Gky. And I can discount anyone's opinion I choose, especially if I state my reasons for finding the opinion worthy of being discounted. While you may be entitled to an opinion, you are not entilteled to the love and respect of others, especially for poorly formed, whiny opinions. Whoever gave you the idea that your opinion is as valid as mine, or others? Your opinion is only as valid as the logic and reasononing behind it (unless it deals with your emotional experience of the world, in which case we should be careful and praise you for having emotions). I wish you were criticizing. I would welcome it. All I have seen from you is whining, half-truths, poor reasoning and ill-spirited posts. Hence, the label of troll. You earn what you earn, bubba. I have yet to see you make a good faith attempt to counter my larger posts here. Even when I have dialed it down and addressed you head on, your responses are unworthy of one who desires to be taken seriously. So, yeah. Your mom felt really good.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 20:29:45 +0000 UTCI am enjoying the best story on Patreon at the moment, but am not enjoying the placeholders.... Tefler, please Stop and catch up. no more of them.
Tom Ray
2024-07-07 20:20:27 +0000 UTCJust to clarify a few comments made; ie. You're getting a story for pennies and cancellation! Let's assume that the average contribution is $2.00 per chapter and you have been a supporter for 3 years, then each person has paid $72.00 for an unfinished tome. Hardly pennies and I don't recall paying that much even for a Trilogy. However we have been in this so far as supporters of a very talented author and not for the perceived payback for the contributions we have made. Even so, even the most naive person would surely admit that Tefler has been uncommunicative and offering unfulfilled promises. The biggest problem however rests with Patreon. If members cancel their subscription to Tefler they will not receive the chapters they have already paid for via placeholders!
Dave Tamares-Little
2024-07-07 20:19:07 +0000 UTC@Gky I could ask the same of you. You continue to bring your oral fixations, your anal fixations, and some twisted relationship with your mother into your comments. Clearly, you now project your strong relationship with semi-public masturbation. I don't judge you for your sexuality. None of it bothers me. However, your pathetic, poorly reasoned, small-minded, shrill comments are annoying. And I do enjoy watching you try and spar. It is pretty laughable.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 20:15:38 +0000 UTC@Gky My posts on the subject of Tefler's failings speak for themselves. I am clear on Tefler's limitations and the extent of my support for him as he continues to write. I bitch about other people's complaints when I find them to be incorrect, small-minded, disingenuous, or plain stupid. Why should I stop? You litter the commentary with your vapid statements, stirring the pot. According to your profile (GKY Joined May 2022), you aren't supporting any creators at all. Which means either a) you have hidden this information, or b) you no longer are a supporter, but hang around as a troll. I am guessing "b." In addition,you bring this on yourself. You attempted to insult me earlier, but instead, brought your own mother into this chat due to your lack of precision in language. As a result, I have had great fun with your mom references.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 20:09:09 +0000 UTCTSM has been one of my most popular and delivering and enjoyable stories . And I have read hundreds . I am still enjoying it . What I am not enjoying is all of these miserable trolls .
Azwiz
2024-07-07 19:54:00 +0000 UTCMy problem with you, is that you assign the "pot stirrer" label to people like me who initially only engaged to make genuine complaints and express real frustrations. After getting called a bunch of names by you, for no other reason than I don't agree with your approach to Tefler's behavior, I sank to your level and started trolling. You run around labeling other people as "disingenuous" but that doesn't make it ok for you to discount their opinions, or treat them poorly. My opinion is as valid as yours. I'm not whining. I'm criticizing. For someone who continually expresses how intelligent they are, I'm certain you can understand the distinction between the two.
Gky
2024-07-07 18:35:18 +0000 UTCEven if I made it hard you'd find it second nature to be a twat, darling.
Gky
2024-07-07 18:30:40 +0000 UTCWho are you writing this for? Masturbate privately, dude.
Gky
2024-07-07 18:29:58 +0000 UTCI do support Tefler currently. Selfishly, I may prefer people continue to support Tefler, but that is just because I think it will help finish more of the story. That is not the point of my post. My post is intended to explain where we are and allow people to make a reasoned choice about continuing to support Tefler. I would rather they make a knowing decision either way—the constant whining is getting old. If they continue their support, they can no longer complain to be legitimate victims, and I will be free to mock and chide their silliness. I find continued whining to be disingenuous and worthy of mockery. If you actually read my comments on this "placeholder," you will find I have been pretty fair with many commenters and their complaints. I have been brutal against a few of the habitual, disingenuous ones who merely try to stir the pot for their own enjoyment.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 18:04:07 +0000 UTCI'm human -- and @Gky makes it too easy.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 17:50:02 +0000 UTC@Gky I will try to respond to you with compassion, reason, and less acidity in this reply. I understood when people initially bitched about Tefler's practices. I felt similarly then. Like many others, I consciously decided to continue supporting Tefler and hoped for the best. That was 18 months ago. As time went on, I modified my subscription to continue supporting Tefler while maintaining control over how much that support costs me. I reduced the maximum number of posts in a given month for which I permitted Tefler to charge. I realized that my support of Tefler was speculative, and I chose to continue supporting him like I have chosen to hold on to risky stocks in my portfolios. I considered ending my support, but I decided otherwise, partly in recognition of the entertainment Tefler has provided me and mainly with the hope that it will help him continue to write this story. He has continued to write his story, albeit at a slower pace. There may come a time when I conclude that my support must end. But I am not there as of yet. These are choices I make, and I am fully aware of the risks I am taking and mindful of the limitations Tefler has displayed. Writing is hard work, and it can be soul-crushing for some writers. I know this from my own experience and from several phenomenal writers I know and interact with regularly. I don't know everything that has gone through Tefler's mind these past 18 months, but I do know how much he has output since 2016. It has been phenomenal. I am certain Tefler is disappointed in himself and his circumstances, and I am sure he desires to finish telling this story. I don't know whether he will be able to do so. I certainly hope he will, and at present, I am of the opinion that he is attempting to do so. Chapter 169 has thus far been an outstanding battle chapter. It could easily be broken into several chapters, but that is not Tefler's style. Maybe it should be -- I am not in control of his artistic choices. There may come a time when I decide he is unable or will not continue writing, and I will withdraw my support at that time. Tefler claims he needs continued support, but he does not communicate well with his patrons, who are disappointed, fearful, and impatient. Patrons are disappointed in his inability to stick to a timeline for publication. He has not kept pledges that he has made, igniting further disappointment and, in some cases, rage and anger. The reasons he has given are concerning; some people react in fear that he may not be able to finish a story they have come to love. The silence after hearing of medical issues has left room for people to speculate over whether he is alive or seriously incapacitated, ramping up fears that their beloved story will remain incomplete. Finally, people are people and display significant impatience, especially regarding this story (do any of you remember the F5 club?). All of this can be seen to play out in the comments. I understand why people lash out. Contrary to popular opinion, I am not an apologist for Tefler. I want to see this story finished, and I am willing to contribute in my own way at present to help improve its chances. But it is very accurate that he has disappointed us with some of his behaviors. People have somehow ascribed hero-like qualities to Tefler when he is just a human struggling to make sense of his circumstances like the rest of us. Yes, I love his writing. No, I do not appreciate his lack of communication or his creating deadlines for himself that are overly optimistic and likely unattainable. I do not ascribe any heightened level of morality or integrity to Tefler regardless of his writing -- I simply do not know the ["u pick one": man/woman/child/eggplant/computer/typing monkey]. At this point, I am well aware that it is highly unlikely that he will "catch up" on the "placeholder" chapters before he charges me again. I fully expect to be charged monthly regardless of his output. I will continue supporting him until I decide otherwise. In summary, these are the facts and likely inferences as I see them: - Regardless of any commitments or statements Tefler has made, he has not been able to maintain his monthly output over the past 18 months while continuing to charge for posts. He is currently seven chapters behind what he has charged for (although 169 is a massive chapter, so I lean towards six behind). - Of the chapters Tefler has delivered, quality has remained consistent, the length of each chapter has not dropped, and the recent battle chapter is well a well-constructed, significant addition to the story, typical of what fans have come to accept. - While Tefler may maintain monthly output, he will most likely continue to charge monthly before delivering on promised chapters. In other words, It is unlikely that Tefler will "catch up." Placeholders are likely to continue being issued. He may charge for a month without delivering any output. - He has stated that he needs patron support as he continues to try to write and work through "________" issues (insert reasons). At this point, the reasons really don't matter. - Most of us have known these facts for quite a long time, some have come to such conclusions slower than others. However, with the amount of shit-posting that has been going on, it is unlikely that any patron is aware of these facts. Assuming such a patron exists, if they read this or similar comments, they are now fully informed. With these facts in mind, as patrons, we each face a binary choice: either continue supporting Tefler while he tries to continue the story or end your support. Every day, you choose either actively (by reviewing your contribution levels and maintaining or adjusting them) or passively (by doing nothing and continuing to contribute). If you continue supporting Tefler, do it with your eyes open. You will be charged at least once in any given month (more if you choose to not limit your subscription). I understand this, and I have chosen to continue my support at a level I am content with. If I later decide that I no longer want to support Tefler, I will withdraw my support. I consider each of my ongoing contributions as risky or slightly riskier than my support of some other Patreon creators, but I accept that risk. You will make up your mind on the level of risk you are willing to take to continue this journey with Tefler: doing nothing is a decision, as well. Unlike rage posters, I am not trying with this post to get you to continue supporting Tefler. At present, I would prefer Tefler continue receiving support for my own selfish reasons: I would like him to continue the story. I am trying to point out the facts as I see them, the decisions I have made, and my desire that each of you take a moment and make your own choices -- with the hopes that the banal rage posting will lessen. I find the rage posting about unfairness to be disingenuous and childish. I have stated my reasons for "ripping into people" in several comments. I don't see this as an issue of fairness any longer. Your support of Tefler is voluntary. There are many options open to you, such as limiting your support or canceling your support and signing up again when additional content is posted. Maintaining a fiction that you are "owed" chapters is silly when it is very clear that Tefler will not be catching up in spite of whatever intentions he may have had. When one argues with reality, one is often disappointed. But if you do know all of this and continue supporting Tefler while making comments of shock ("I can't believe that the bastard..."), indignant rage ("His is stealing/cheating/being unfair...", moral rantings ("I always live up to ...") or other foolishness, I most likely will mock and taunt you. I will recognize your commentary for what it is: ramblings of insincere trolls who simply desire to stir the pot and get more people to shit-post with them. You will be exposed as disingenuous victims who plead pathetically for recognition and affirmation even though you continue to willingly donate in spite of your knowledge of Tefler's practices. I will have much fun at your expense, pointing out your poorly reasoned positions, your unintelligent insults, and the spoiled child nature of your little minds. Such comments do nothing to help the matter, they reveal a level of insight that is rather base and childish, and they contribute nothing to other's enjoyment of the storyline, characters, or speculative storyline possibilities. However, I do enjoy Evilebob's satirical updates. His regular outrage comments are fairly pathetic, but his satirical updates explaining why a chapter has failed to drop are works of art. Oh, and @Gky -- I really enjoyed your mom. She gives great head.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 17:42:49 +0000 UTCGood write-up...although your closing words were uncalled for
Aldo
2024-07-07 17:24:36 +0000 UTCGuys... language please....this forum is not meant to call eachother names... I partially disagree with Florida Reader who is very vocal in his support for tefler as is his right, but let's agree to disagree and respect eachothers opinions (and listen) to them instead of trying to beat eachother into submission with your arguments
Aldo
2024-07-07 17:21:39 +0000 UTCYou can check your billing history in the settings on Patreon and specifically what posts you paid for. I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't charged for either of the partial chapter 169 posts. If you check that and it says you paid for it, then there's an issue, but I have not seen concrete evidence that your claim is true.
Andrew Shultes
2024-07-07 16:47:19 +0000 UTCTefler, if 169 Part 3 arrives before July 15th along with 170, your good will points will reach 30%. To many that will be a positive experience and outcome. If you don't give an update to your hea lth status by then, I think many more people will take Florida Reader's advice and your $$$ input will reduce accordingly. Wait for it... Mr. 56 will appear in attempt to "chastise".
Big Dude
2024-07-07 16:00:50 +0000 UTCWe didn't pay twice for 169.
Unresolved Plots
2024-07-07 11:33:00 +0000 UTCSo we paid twice for 169 (which was a terrible chapter imho) and prepaid for 7 more chapters. I'm not even counting any of the nonsense that was pulled before 169 (which was significant as far as I can tell). What a bloody scam.
LuxVeritas
2024-07-07 11:26:33 +0000 UTCDuuude, you whine more than literally everyone else combined. "Why doesn't everyone love Tefler as much as me?" And on and on and on... I swear to God, the lack of self awareness from you is hilarious. You bitch about people's complaints with such zeal you sound like Tefler's alt. Or his mom. You know Tefler's behavior sucks. There's real problems. You know (from your own endless complaining) that humans get passionate when they feel wronged. So stop trying to police everyone's words. We ALL support Tefler. That's why we're here. I don't know who hurt you, but it wasn't us. Get your shit together.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:55:51 +0000 UTCYou raised me right, what can I say?
Gky
2024-07-07 08:48:57 +0000 UTCYou call me stupid with every reply. Project, project, project, FR. If only you were smart enough to realize how dumb you are, then you could laugh at you with me. Wouldn't that be fun? We could just laugh and laugh.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:45:21 +0000 UTCYou seem to have no problem ripping into people you think aren't being fair. Guess what I'm doing with Tefler... same thing. Look at how often you accuse others of projection. There's room for self-reflection there for you. I urge you to take the opportunity to become less of an twat.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:42:00 +0000 UTCFR thinks I'm witty! No take backs!
Gky
2024-07-07 08:40:41 +0000 UTCDon't forget to work the shaft there, Tefler will notice if you slack off.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:38:18 +0000 UTCIt's every parent's dream that their children will surpass them. You've succeeded, pops.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:37:00 +0000 UTCI'm a source of criticism, sure. All emotionally intelligent people welcome a certain level of criticism. It can help us improve, become aware of our weaknesses, and grow into better more interesting humans. You lash out in lengthy, self-important (and frankly masturbatory) rants against anyone who doesn't share your view that Tefler can do no wrong. You advocate for patience and forgiveness and tolerance of Tefler's shortcomings and failures.... and then turn around and rip into anyone who doesn't agree. My friend, don't talk to me about intelligence or self-reflection. You are not qualified.
Gky
2024-07-07 08:36:10 +0000 UTC@Gky Why am I not surprised you have intimate knowledge of primary school carpets and herpes on hookers? Why am I not more alarmed? I mean, I understand your knowledge of fleas on a dog's ass. I am glad you had at least one friend growing up.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 07:08:12 +0000 UTC@Ben I belittle those who make idiotic arguments. You, sir, are one of them.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 07:04:30 +0000 UTC@Gky I am not surprised you got bored, and I am definitely not your Dad. You were born before I had my way with your Mother. Besides, if I were your dad, you would be a helluva lot smarter and able to engage in self-reflection. Do you even realize how much you set yourself up with your petty comments?
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 07:02:49 +0000 UTCI am not on the side of all the whining, of which you are a significant source. I have no problem with you valuing my opinion as worthless. It makes sense that you feel that way. Like intelligence, self-reflection is not one of your strengths.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:57:18 +0000 UTC@Gky I'm glad you like the story. Your comments have revealed what kind of person you are. PS -- I really enjoyed your Mom.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:50:26 +0000 UTC@Evilebob You would first have to write a story that engaged as many patrons as Tefler has, putting out nearly 169 chapters of an epic tale. While you can't seem to push yourself to be "that kind of person," you have no problem holding yourself up to be so much better because of your amazing morals while denigrating others who choose to continue supporting Tefler. I know there is an unintended irony in your comment; however, I don't feel like spelling it out at this time. You're just too good for this world, Bob.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:49:17 +0000 UTCI am totally loving chapter 169 so far. Thank you for actually commenting on the story.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:31:14 +0000 UTCYou belittle those who point out that objectively tefler is a liar. If you can’t acknowledge that you’re just living in a fantasy world. For the most part those of us who correctly point out this don’t feel the need to resort to ad hominem attacks. When the facts don’t support you insult the messengers pointing out the facts.
Ben
2024-07-07 06:29:06 +0000 UTC@Gky Still orally fixated, are you? Why do you continue to project all of your insecurities? Do you find dick-sucking to be an insult? Are you still in middle school, or is your brain just stuck there?
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:14:06 +0000 UTC"I am a victim, and I want to yell and scream even though I completely control my subscription." -- @Gky. You continue to amaze me with your tiny little brain.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:09:26 +0000 UTC@Gky Why would I want to marry a person who doesn't realize that they are a walking idiot? For that matter, why would anyone want to marry a person who is both mean-spirited and unaware of their stunningly low intellect? You betray your stupidity with each comment. It is sad. But more to the point, I do get you: you are relatively transparent. So the answer to a question I never asked but you so cleverly heard is "No." Such a genius.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 06:05:26 +0000 UTC@Greg Hill Sure, that is possible. But if you have limited your contributions to once per month, then I see no issue here. You would be charged for one post for the first month and one post for the second month. You are claiming an issue of timing, with Tefler charging on the last day of the first month and the first day of the second month. If you follow through under your hypothetical, he would not be able to charge again until the first day of the third month. Your problem is your math. Regardless of how he charges it out, he has diminishing returns for each successive post in a given month since many supporters limit their contributions to one per month. Those who do not limit their contributions either don't care (choosing to allow Tefler to charge as often as he likes) or, as incredulous as it sounds, they have not figured out that the ability to limit is a thing (hence my lengthy post today detailing options). At this point, there is little justification for the constant whining and bitching. It is based on a disingenuous premise of victimization (see one of my responses to a comment in this "chapter" from @Ben, a pseudo-victim begging for attention and validation). You are not a victim; you are a patron. If you don't want to be a patron, quit. You have complete control over your subscription. Oh, before I forget: bless your heart.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 05:57:53 +0000 UTCI am always amazed at how much projection your witty little comments betray. Must be something about your very little mind. And you still live with your Mom? I mean, I am sure I fucked her once or twice, but I did not know you still lived with her. It doesn't surprise me at all, given that most states have eliminated or significantly reduced funds for taking care of mentally challenged individuals such as yourself.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 05:40:17 +0000 UTC@Florida...thank you and "bless your heart"!, but speak about this part of my comment..."You'll get a partial chapter in the last hour of the last day of the month, then two placeholders in the first hour of the first day of the month"...
Greg Hill
2024-07-07 05:29:40 +0000 UTCYou're so helpful. Always there. Like glitter on the orange industrial carpeting of a primary school. Like herpes on hookers. Like fleas on a dog's ass. You're always there. I love you.
Gky
2024-07-07 05:16:19 +0000 UTCI got bored reading your comment and didn't finish it so yeah whatever I agree. Sure. Dead brain or what have you. Good job, dad.
Gky
2024-07-07 05:14:11 +0000 UTCYeah FR that's what I meant. It's so cool that you get me, you know? Let's get married.
Gky
2024-07-07 05:09:22 +0000 UTC"I haven't been given what I've been charged for." = "Troll." You're certainly consistent if nothing else.
Gky
2024-07-07 05:01:38 +0000 UTCYou're mumbling. Maybe take Tefler's D out of your mouth, then talk.
Gky
2024-07-07 05:00:03 +0000 UTCMom says stop yelling at your computer and go outside.
Gky
2024-07-07 04:58:10 +0000 UTCYou've proven time and again that you're so far up Tefler's backside you couldn't be objective if your life depended on it, so I'm going to go ahead and value your opinion at "worthless"
Gky
2024-07-07 04:53:58 +0000 UTCAt this point, they are not placeholders. Tefler is attempting to get a monthly income while he tries to continue writing. I choose to continue supporting him knowing full well this is what he is doing. You will need to make up your own mind. I have written an extensive message below regarding your options.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 04:34:50 +0000 UTCI share your frustration with Tefler's communication skills.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 04:31:13 +0000 UTC@Ben "I hate to keep contributing, but Tefler is forcing me to, even though I have complete control over my contribution amount, how many times I will allow Tefler to charge my account in a given month, and the ability to unsubscribe at any time. It is really, really, really, reaally, reaaaaaaally unfair, and I am really, really, really, reaally, reaaaaaaally upset. I just have to share how abused I am and how I am being so victimized. I hope you will validate me by being upset too and showing how we all are pathetic victims without the ability to control our shared fates." Did I interpret your comment correctly? I felt a need to translate it into victim-speak for those who don't fully appreciate your pain. I ignored your attempt to create excuses for Tefler because Evilbob is much better at satire (even if his general commentary is pretty pathetic).
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 04:29:26 +0000 UTCIs it abuse? Really? Or is it keeping the lights on while he writes? Or are patrons just continuing to support him? At best, it is a mixed bag. If (as you say) you have limited your payments to one per month, and you know he will charge for at least one post per month, aren't you willingly contributing the monthly payment? You can convert to a free membership, monitor for new chapters, and rejoin at a paid subscription rate at any time to read those new chapters. Failure to do so suggests that you agree with the practice. Your complaint, therefore, is misplaced.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 04:16:27 +0000 UTCThis is a mystery of modern computing. I am not sure if anyone knows.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 04:02:52 +0000 UTC@rich ed You've been a patron since 2016, and you JUST did that? Even though you make angry, whiny comments? Well, at least you are now starting to take control of your life. Well done, I guess.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 03:54:19 +0000 UTC@rich ed You also have a right to leave.
Florida Reader
2024-07-07 03:51:08 +0000 UTC"Fuck you" is a reasonable response.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 22:08:40 +0000 UTCIs it stealing if you keep willingly giving it away, Jim? Think about that for a while. I know it will challenge you.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 22:07:53 +0000 UTCAgain, this is a reasonable response. It is much better than whining and shaking your fist at the heavens, tearing your shirt, and claiming that this is the greatest crime since Orphan Annie stole a pack of bubblegum.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 22:07:03 +0000 UTC@Alex Jackson It is an entirely reasonable response to unsubscribe and check back later. But please understand that Tefler is not getting $7k per chapter. He is getting that for the first charged post in a given month. Many (if not most) of his supporters have changed their contributions to only one charged post per month. Consequently, Tefler is getting much less for his 2nd and subsequent charged posts in a month. Anyway, fair travels. See you when you get back.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 22:03:53 +0000 UTCYou are a really tiny little man, Jim.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 22:00:16 +0000 UTCTotal class, dude.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:59:11 +0000 UTCI have limited it to a single payment per month, I don't dislike the story otherwise I would. I don't like that Tefler is abusing his followers because he is behind on bills
Dallas Bell
2024-07-06 21:58:40 +0000 UTCDid I hear you correctly, Kevin? Are you hoping that Tefler develops more medical issues on top of the ones you believe he doesn't have or that he develops medical problems if he doesn't have enough already to satisfy your thinking? That is some serious bullshit there -- no wonder your mom named you Kevin. Karen didn't fit your gender. I get that you want more chapters. But are you earnestly wishing a pox on others to get your way? Wow. How very spoiled-childlike of you.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:57:46 +0000 UTCYou can become a free member and at least receive notices of updates.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:50:09 +0000 UTCSee ya later Rev Thwack.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:48:59 +0000 UTCThe simple way for you not to be a cash advance is to unsubscribe or limit your subscription. Like your comment, this is not rocket science.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:48:19 +0000 UTC@Jim lynch You continue to prove yourself a whiny little bitch.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:46:58 +0000 UTC@ASHi Everyone is different.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:46:26 +0000 UTCWow. You certainly sound like an all-powerful man, TomRay. Have you considered unsubscribing? Do you think you will get more of this story by ranting in the manner you do? Do you believe that all of Tefler's subscribers feel the same way you do? Some of us do not feel as you do, TomRay. I would venture the majority do not. But you do you. Be impressive and all-powerful.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:44:58 +0000 UTCI understand that you have your doubts, @Gky. You have plainly stated you do not believe anything Tefler says. I do not know if you have experienced health struggles before, and I certainly hope you have not. But as one who understands what it is like to have health problems and struggle to recover, I choose to remain empathetic to Tefler. What he is producing is very good. Would I like it if he produced more? Of course, I would. Do I think complaining is the way to help him achieve that? No, I do not. So, unlike you, I do not begrudge Gerald's comment.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:38:25 +0000 UTCWhile you appropriately corrected @William Wallace's factor 10 error, you have not corrected all the errors. In the comments, I detailed the mistake in the basic assumption in the last chapter. Tefler may receive $7,377 for the first charged post during a month, but because many people limit their contributions to only one charged post per month, he does not receive $7,377 for each subsequent charged post in a given month. Consequently, you must make allowances for months in which Tefler attempted to charge for more than one post, of which there are several.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:35:09 +0000 UTCYour math is wrong. This has been detailed in a previous comment. If you need me to walk you through it again, please ask.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:29:14 +0000 UTCI believe that you just don't believe anything [Tefler says] at this point. I also don't think that many of your comments are well-reasoned or useful.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:27:53 +0000 UTC@EvilBob You have done it again—a very well-written satire of a Tefler update.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:26:01 +0000 UTC@RichEd Ummm. Did you think @EvilBob's comment was trash? I found it kind of funny. He excelled at my earlier call to develop better updates than the ones Tefler has not given.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:24:54 +0000 UTCWell said, em.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:19:48 +0000 UTCI actually enjoyed your comment, Bob, even though I'm afraid I have to disagree with its basic tenor for reasons I have extensively laid out in other comments. But credit is due for your creativity in this case. Satire is a thing.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:19:30 +0000 UTCDear Florida Reader. I was not speaking for all patrons, especially ones that appear to have all the answers as in your long diatribe. I was expressing my opinion, which is my right. Thank you for your unwanted opinion.
Brian D Meyerdirk
2024-07-06 21:18:07 +0000 UTCYou propose a reasonable solution for those who cannot abide the placeholders—switching to a free membership and checking back occasionally. I choose not to ascribe motive to Tefler and do not presume to know his circumstances. I do know that Chapter 169 has been pretty epic thus far.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:16:05 +0000 UTC@Gky Again, your lack of intelligence is shining through.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:12:41 +0000 UTCRight? It's like they are insane. I mean, this is a voluntary patronage. It is simple to limit one's exposure or to quit and rejoin. Instead, they stay around and rage, whine, bitch, moan and complain. They think their reasoning is so clever when it is petty and small. Do they think they are encouraging Tefler to write more? Wow.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:11:04 +0000 UTC@Brian D Meyerdirk You have issues, Brian. You are a patron. If you don't want to be a patron, then quit. It is not a big deal to re-join later. You did not contribute $50,000 and do not speak for the patrons who did.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:08:05 +0000 UTC@20 Ton A very intelligent response to the situation. Much better than filling up the comments with whining, bitching and complaining.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:04:24 +0000 UTCHave a good day, Jim. You are a tiny, little man trapped in the body of a whiny bitch.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:03:07 +0000 UTCYou are welcome to leave.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 21:02:17 +0000 UTCI am sorry to hear what you have been through. It seems overwhelming. I hope you and your wife pull through. Many people don't empathize with others' hardships, and that is a sad fact of our world. I agree that it would help if Tefler communicated more. But there will always be trolls; unfortunately, they seem to have found their way here as well.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:58:41 +0000 UTC@Gky Grumble, grumble, grumble. Very predictable.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:54:44 +0000 UTCYou are a decent sort, Hephestus Hugh.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:54:06 +0000 UTCWell said, Darell. The whiners can leave. Nothing is stopping them other than their self-righteous claim to victimization.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:53:17 +0000 UTC@Gky Your cleverness knows no end. The witty nature of your remarks blows away the average single-celled organism. Do you think you are helping to encourage Tefler to write more? Are you somehow contributing with an insightful comment about the storyline? If you are struggling, I will help you: your IQ is showing -- it is below average.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:51:37 +0000 UTC@Gky And once again, you have shown how ignorant you are without realizing you have shown how ignorant you are. Dead people don't know they are dead in the same manner as stupid people don't know they are stupid. You, when it comes to brain activity, are like a dead person.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:46:25 +0000 UTC@Ben Why would I send you money? You make poorly reasoned analogies, and you seem to be mean-spirited as well. Do you feel justified and righteous for chiming in the way you have? Would it surprise you to learn that your comment only reveals how vapid your inner monologue must be?
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:43:46 +0000 UTCWell said, Derrick.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:39:10 +0000 UTCI have given my solution many times. Whining will not help Tefler produce chapters. Either support him or don't. That is the solution. Please see my lengthy dissertation regarding this issue which I posted in comments to this chapter today.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:38:42 +0000 UTCI believe that most of his 4,362 patrons realize that he is struggling and choose to continue supporting him. His work product continues to be outstanding. There may be a day that his base leaves, but as long as he continues to progress, we will most likely stick around. This isn't to say there aren't a few very noisy complainers. However, most continue to support Tefler and look forward to his continued writing and better health.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:36:56 +0000 UTC@Greg Hill I think it is entirely fair to limit your subscription if that is what you want to do. Being a patron is a voluntary act of support. If you want to increase your contributions, that is also fair. I take issue with people who voluntarily contribute, yet bitch all along the way. That seems to be a bit insane to me. I choose not to assign a motive to Telfer other than the motive to continue needing support (which you call welfare). Do you feel better that you can accuse Tefler of being a welfare queen? Does that somehow make you feel superior? Well done, you magnanimous, charitable soul.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:32:15 +0000 UTC@Gky Are you suggesting that you are not in control of your assumptions? That somehow Tefler controls your assumptions? That makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. Your prior comments indicate an individual who has little control over his poorly-fed brain. Fair enough.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:24:31 +0000 UTC@Michael56Smith Michael, I have no problem with people continuing to support Tefler but taking steps to minimize their exposure to extra placeholders. That is fair. Greg is a bit of a pisser when he attributes motives to Tefler and assigns actions such as Tefler laughing. As Tefler continues this story, Greg has accepted the proposition that Tefler will charge for placeholders. Instead of unsubscribing now and resubscribing when there is new content, he has chosen to limit his exposure while remaining at least a monthly supporter. Fair enough.
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 20:18:10 +0000 UTCI can see I have my work cut out for me. Having beat down the bitches, whiners, complainers, moralizers, and otherwise moronic individuals in the comments to "Ch. 175 (Placeholder)," I see they have only popped back up here. Many of the idiots are the same individuals commenting on here in "Ch. 176 (Placeholder);" it is like playing whack-a-moron. Let us see if we can help educate a few individuals. We shall first attempt utilizing reason. I realize that few of them read at a level necessary to understand reason, but we shall be charitable and attempt to enlighten them anyway. PART ONE: WHERE WE ARE A. Tefler is Behind Yes, yes; We all know this. However, he has been a ridiculously productive author, giving us years of fantastic content. He writes chapters up to ten times larger than many serials and does not consider a chapter complete (especially battle chapters) until it meets his standards. I respect that. His latest chapter, Ch 169, is substantial. He has not skimped on the action scenes, and I frankly have no idea how it will end. He could have easily broken this into three chapters and helped catch up on his backlog. But he is the writer and the artist: I will defer to his judgment here. I am not upset that he is six or seven chapters behind (depending on how one chooses to count). But I can understand those who are disappointed. Delayed gratification is hard. B. Tefler Does Not Communicate Well With His Fans He has indicated that his reasons for being behind are his health, his wife's health, family emergencies, and other reasons. He does not communicate with his fans well, having gone weeks and weeks without communicating or even letting us know he is alive. Fair point. At the same time, I don't walk in his shoes or struggle with his demons, whatever they may be. I am impressed that he continues putting out content given his struggles and in the face of the cruel and frothing comments directed towards him posted below. It is hard enough to be a writer and publish as much as he has on this series (reference George R.R. Martin, among others). But he keeps at it, and his quality is still very high. Like many here, I prefer he posts more frequently to inform us about his struggles. I am not him, and I do not know what prevents him from doing so. I know that he wants to complete things quicker. I know that he sets goals for himself, and when he doesn't meet them, he feels defeated. I know what it is like to be weighed down on perceived failures. Given his otherwise excellent track record and the quality of the work that he continues to publish, I choose to continue giving him the benefit of the doubt. I can respect others if they decide not to give him the benefit of the doubt. I would prefer he continue to write rather than become despondent over a few "fan" comments and quit altogether. C. Many Of The Complainers Feel Moral Injury I see repeatedly in the posts of the habitually disgruntled appeals to morality or misplaced legal constructs that "placeholders are cheating," "charging in advance is against the law," or other iterations of similar concepts. Some are artfully presented, but most are dark and poorly presented. I can understand their initial disappointment. I can understand if people choose to end their patronage over this issue. Several people have left over this, and I do not blame them for their decision. However, given that this has happened for 18 months, any patrons still complaining are foolish. Can one continue to claim such injury when this has become the norm and the complainers continue to subscribe? At best, this is disingenuous. Most of Tefler's supporters remain supporters and do not complain. Of the 4,362 current Tefler patrons, only a handful spend any significant time bitching, moaning, and whining. With morality being a human construct, it would appear that the community of Tefler supporters has chosen to disagree with the judgment of a few, choosing not to consider placeholders as "cheating." PART TWO: WHAT TO DO The reasonable response to feeling that the value proposition of your subscription to Tefler is not worth it is to adjust the value you spend or to end your patronage altogether. The unhinged and perhaps pathological response is to continue to subscribe and maintain the same level of support while constantly complaining about how unfair, unethical, unlawful, immoral, or wholly inappropriate it is for Tefler to do what he has been doing for the past 18 months. With this in mind, there are several avenues available to sane individuals. A. Unsubscribe If you want total control over what you are charged by Tefler, you can always unsubscribe. This is a simple act. All one needs to do is cancel their subscription by going to their settings page, clicking on the "Memberships" tab, scrolling down to their Tefler membership, selecting the "View Details" button, and then clicking on the "Cancel membership" button. Answer a question or two, send a nasty message if you want, and viola! Your membership is canceled. No more worries about placeholders. Assuming you would like to read new content at or near the time it is posted, you can monitor Tefler's Patron pages, and if new content appears, you can always resubscribe. This is a very simple process and a simple solution to ending all the chest-beating, wailing in the dark, and feeling completely unappreciated and unloved. You may still be unappreciated and unloved, but that is beyond the scope of this comment. B. Limit Your Contribution If you are concerned about how much you voluntarily contribute to Tefler in any given month, you can limit the amount per charged post you contribute at any time (I am sure everyone knows this). This is also a very simple process. In addition to reducing the amount per charged post, you can limit the number of posts you can be charged for in any given month. What?? Is that possible??? Why, yes, my confused fellow patron, it is: I will outline the procedure for those who find this information dazzlingly new. To limit the number of posts you can be charged for in a given month, go to your settings page, click on the "Memberships" tab, scroll to your Tefler membership, and click on the "View Details" button. To the right of the "Payment Amount" heading is an option to "edit." Clicking on the blue-lettered "edit" label, you can change your payment amount, and there is a check box option to "Set a monthly limit." You can change the limit to however many you desire by checking the check box and selecting a number. People who reduce their monthly limit to one charge per month are paying Tefler the equivalent of a monthly subscription. C. Do Nothing If you feel that Tefler's current practices are taking advantage of you, you can also do nothing. This seems silly because it is entirely in your power to change the dynamic by taking the steps outlined in sections A and B above. However, learned helplessness is a thing, and I will not judge you if you choose to do nothing. However, if you do nothing and continue to whine... PART THREE: CONTINUED WHINING If, having reviewed the above, you choose to continue your patronage while continuing to whine, bitch moan, and complain in the comments, then it is undoubtedly your choice to spend your limited time claiming to be a victim and wailing to the heavens about the abuse you are suffering. However, please be advised that we are all on to you now. I, for one, have no sympathy for your plaintive cries. I will mock you at every chance and laugh at the stupidity you display through your poorly reasoned and barely intelligible comments. I encourage my fellow genuine Tefler supporters to laugh at you each time they encounter your pathetic posts and to up their contributions to Tefler as a protest against your continued stupidity. Thus endeth the lesson: Cheers, bitches!
Florida Reader
2024-07-06 19:59:27 +0000 UTCIt's Tefler's own fault people are assuming the worst when it comes to his motivations
Gky
2024-07-06 14:42:59 +0000 UTC-- This Greg Hill, and those that think as he does, seem to me to really be just dark-hearted folks, and not really fans of TSM at all, .... these haters can just go away. For now, and perhaps check back in a few years, .... I truly find those types of sleazy 'mind-reading' comments to be rather slimy and I would be quite happy to never see their like again, .... sorry Greg, ... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-06 06:57:46 +0000 UTCThanks for the update Tef. How bout writing the fucking story, not this trash
rich ed
2024-07-06 04:57:00 +0000 UTCJust did that. Been a patron since 2016, the excuses are getting a bit extreme and predicable
rich ed
2024-07-06 04:45:30 +0000 UTCOne way to limit multiple placeholders is to go to your subscription and change it to one charge per month, that way he can't hit you with dual placeholders on the 1st of every month, which is when he collects his welfare checks. You'll get a partial chapter in the last hour of the last day of the month, then two placeholders in the first hour of the first day of the month, giving him $15,000, or at the least $10,000 per month for a half chapter or less...This is not accidental, he knows exactly what he's doing, and he's laughing every step of the way!!!
Greg Hill
2024-07-06 02:42:34 +0000 UTCNo actually I didn't. I understood the point being made perfectly. I was just making the observation of how Ben asking for money is different to Tefler asking, since Tefler has already given us 169 chapters of an ongoing story and Ben has given us nothing! Its really not difficult, I'm surprised you don't understand the difference!!
Unresolved Plots
2024-07-05 23:17:12 +0000 UTCHey Tef, I know you’re under the weather so are having trouble with keeping up with your desired pace. I wonder if during your down time you’d play with some of the AI that’s come out lately to give us a visual glimpse of some of the universe you’ve created. Might help us keep our appetites while you get the next chapter together.
Nate
2024-07-05 23:07:54 +0000 UTCHell of a "bridge" at this point.
Gky
2024-07-05 21:01:07 +0000 UTCHe should write more so we can read more. Specifically, so we can read what he's already charged us for.
Gky
2024-07-05 21:00:38 +0000 UTCYour comments never fail to make me want to not read your comments.
Gky
2024-07-05 20:59:27 +0000 UTCYou are new here right? People have the right to complain as this has been going on for years, and every time he says he will stop doing it. You seem to have anger issues. See someone about it before it ruins your life.
rich ed
2024-07-05 10:03:49 +0000 UTCYou kind of missed the point of their comment.
Gky
2024-07-05 02:54:25 +0000 UTCI was going to keep out of this ,but I just had a total knee replacement done in this past November a heart procedure done in April this year and caught pneumonia just in the past 3 weeks. With my knee I was wiped out for 9 weeks sleep and pain pill’s then PT I could not do anything at all. Heart procedure kind of did me in for 4 weeks. Pneumonia like I said not there yet. So where am I going if Tefler is having so much issues with this I am good for now but he Should say hi once in a while. I am from Canada so know about wait times when it comes to medical issues and appointments. Darn my wife need a MRI done on her left knee just got the appointment last week November 2025 go figure that out. Tefler communication is the best way get well but talk to us……..
Newnotsure
2024-07-05 00:27:09 +0000 UTCI enjoy your stories and am happy to help you bridge until your health returns. There are enough twists that even when an outcome is more or less known, how the story gets there is a great ride.
Hephaestus Hugh
2024-07-04 11:24:58 +0000 UTCSo what I can't spell...
Darrell Van Ember
2024-07-04 04:05:56 +0000 UTCShut the hell up wining weasles.... If the guy is having issues leave him be... If it bothers you so much then fuck off. Your getting a story for pennyies
Darrell Van Ember
2024-07-04 04:04:22 +0000 UTC... yeah, Tef is 'coming on', ... he writes, we read, .... that works, ... I love this story, .... So, get well soon Tef, .... ;-) ttfn
Michael56Smith
2024-07-04 01:47:55 +0000 UTCEverybody is entitled to an opinion, and i respect yours...so what is your *solution* ? As i explained in my previous post...there is no question on tef's talent, nor my appreciation of it...its just that he needs some form of intervention....
Aldo
2024-07-03 19:36:30 +0000 UTCThe problem with the premise you present is it is a false equivalence. So far as I know you have never published a single word of a story, so I have no idea on the quality of your work? Tefler has posted almost 169 chapters of excellent writing over the best part of a decade.
Unresolved Plots
2024-07-03 11:19:01 +0000 UTCNow 7 chapters in arrears? Come on, really?!
Ironage Photography
2024-07-03 09:23:52 +0000 UTCPlease leave
Myrnalin
2024-07-03 08:42:14 +0000 UTCFor everyone making excuses are you willing to send me money? I promise I’ll eventually write something you like. In the meantime just float me some funds. All I ask is a few thousand a month. I’ve lied to you less than Tefler so what’s the problem with trusting me that I’ll get you something you like sometime
Ben
2024-07-03 07:28:16 +0000 UTCYou go, girl. (Ok, everyone, please understand this is one idiotic idea).
Florida Reader
2024-07-03 03:23:05 +0000 UTCI understand everyone’s frustration it’s like we keep waiting for a payoff that doesn’t come, but I also understand what it’s like to be so physically disabled that you are unable to do the simplest things, let alone work and seriously concentrate. I’m not threatening to leave, I truly love the story, so unless it gets crazy, I won’t. But take it as a suggestion or a request, please give us (your subscribers) like a weekly update, if for nothing else, but to let us know you’re still here and concerned with the story, and you’re still interested, that it’s worth us keeping our subscription, and you care. It’s hard to feel like that when we only hear from you once a month.
Derrick Hatfield
2024-07-03 03:20:02 +0000 UTCI suggest we put out an ultimatum date : July 15th...deliver at least 2 full chapters or we will walk away... En-masse.. that's a clear signal
Aldo
2024-07-02 23:18:20 +0000 UTCSad to see such talent, i still believe tefler is one of the most talented writers, smearing his reputation , by alienating his base.... He seems to be so hooked on the money. That he is destroying the thing that could provide him with a true loyal fanbase and steady income.... There will be a tipping point where fans will just walk away to never come back....
Aldo
2024-07-02 23:10:54 +0000 UTCTefs Progenitor Chronicles #253 Star Date: 6745.07.03 Day Sixty in the Nexus Nebula Greetings, weary travelers of the literary cosmos. Your frustration is palpable, and rightly so. Allow me to take you on a brief journey into the chaotic whirlwind that is my existence, where writing a chapter is akin to navigating an asteroid field with a faulty thruster. Imagine, if you will, a day in the life of your humble scribe. The morning begins with the familiar sting of antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and the occasional jab from a needle. My legs, swelled like overripe moon fruits, demand elevation, rendering me a stationary starship captain on a perpetually sinking ship. The holographic sheep, ever mischievous, chew through critical manuscript files with alarming regularity. Laptop perched precariously on my lap, I begin to type, only to be interrupted by the relentless beep of the medical scanner, indicating yet another anomaly in my health. The doctor, a hologram with a penchant for gallows humor, quips about my body’s determination to become a living geology exhibit. As the day progresses, the Nexus’s quantum fluctuations play havoc with my writing systems, causing sudden power outages and data corruptions. By evening, the galaxy outside my window taunts me with its serenity, a stark contrast to the tumult within my ship. Despite these cosmic calamities, I manage to weave words into the tapestry of Chapter 169, albeit slowly and painfully. Your impatience is understood, but know that each sentence is a battle hard-won, each paragraph a testament to my resilience. So, what do I do with all my time? I fight. I fight my body’s betrayals, the technological treacheries of my ship, and the relentless march of time itself. All for the love of storytelling and the hope that, eventually, the stars will align, and the chapters will flow as freely as the cosmic winds. Until then, dear readers, thank you for your patience and your patronage. Your involuntary double financial support is the thruster that keeps this wayward ship from drifting into the void.
Evilebob
2024-07-02 22:01:55 +0000 UTCProgenitor Chronicles #252 Star Date: 6745.07.02 Day Fifty-Nine in the Nexus Nebula In the midst of the cosmic turmoil and rising dissatisfaction among the patrons, there exists a curious figure known as EIX. EIX, ever the oblivious hero, sails through the swirling storm of complaints and discontent with a blissful detachment. "Just get better. Ignore the impatient progenitors," he proclaims with unwavering cheerfulness, seemingly unaware of the uproar surrounding the controversial placeholders and the double charging for future chapters. While the galaxy around him pulses with anger and frustration over what many see as duplicitous practices, EIX remains serenely disconnected, focusing solely on the well-being of the beleaguered author. It is as though the intricacies of the situation, the hundreds of posts criticizing the financial exploitation, and the unmet promises simply do not exist in his reality. His simple, well-meaning advice cuts through the chaos like a beam of misplaced optimism, a reminder that in every story, there are those who see only the best, even when the writing is on the wall.
Evilebob
2024-07-02 21:52:42 +0000 UTCIF anything he says about his health shit is true. At this point you'd be crazy not to have doubts.
Gky
2024-07-02 14:45:43 +0000 UTCI like the story, and Tefler has made it clear what kind of person he is.
Gky
2024-07-02 14:44:36 +0000 UTCPatreon doesn't care about what Tefler is doing. Their terms and conditions are very carefully crafted to exonerated them of any responsibility to police creator behavior. Tefler does what he does because he knows he can get away with it.
Gky
2024-07-02 14:42:17 +0000 UTCI just don't believe anything you say at this point.
Gky
2024-07-02 14:39:23 +0000 UTCI'm a month time. You could only do a half chapter if that and charge for two chapter? You don't work just write. Wtf do u do with all your time. Even if you are actually sick and not lieing. Put a laptop on your lap while u lay there and type
Dominic Janning
2024-07-02 13:33:04 +0000 UTCTake good care of your health. We will still be here waiting when you can make up for the missing chapters.
em110905
2024-07-02 08:41:31 +0000 UTCJust get better. Ignore the impatient progenitors.
EIX
2024-07-02 01:29:59 +0000 UTCOk the spacer didn't get kopied it is still a lot of money, maybe not for you,but it is for me.
William Wallace
2024-07-01 22:00:10 +0000 UTCBTW how the hell do you add line breaks on mobile web page??? Shift+enter doesn't work on phone keyboards.
Light Archon
2024-07-01 20:24:20 +0000 UTCHah as I expected, another month, another 2 placeholders. Tef I get that it's hard to write sometimes but as quite a few have pointed out the health issues posted here and dragged out seem to indicate either your creative flair is being applied to lying to us, or you're being extremely passive to resolve your own health problems (which is pretty weird to anyone with a sane mind). That being said, to all members who are dissatisfied with the placeholders, you COULD report him to Patreon, but hey we'd lose a source of great stories (where else do we track him?). OR... you could just cancel your membership and drop it to free membership. Tef stops getting your money and you still get notifications of his posts here. Come back every (few?) months and upgrade membership to read all the posts again lol. And yes by cancelling/changing to free you still get access to everything here once you re upgrade. Actions speak louder than words. Just do it, since complaining just reinforces the saying "sticks and stones may hurt my bones, but words will never hurt me". Just go to settings then memberships and cancel your membership to tefler. Keep as free membership. Done. So you lose access to the comments. Big deal. Catch up when you decide to re-upgrade.
Light Archon
2024-07-01 20:12:57 +0000 UTCSo he gets an A??? Do you normally pay for items months before you receive them? I have been understanding to a fault. I understand illness and recovery time. Taking over $50k for services to be rendered eventually/maybe/hopefully is wrong. Patreon should not allow this practice.
Brian D Meyerdirk
2024-07-01 19:06:43 +0000 UTCHe's kept it 96% of the time so far. I'm willing to accept that as long as he recovers.
Jason
2024-07-01 18:53:43 +0000 UTCI think it's funny that the first post is all supportive comments, and the second placeholder is all angry people...
David Kahlke
2024-07-01 17:35:37 +0000 UTCThank you. Hopefully he'll catch up in the next few years.🤣I'm not holding my breath.
Brian D Meyerdirk
2024-07-01 17:13:45 +0000 UTCI dropped for a while until he caught up and was allowed to receive those I had paid for. You can limit the access to one a month and if he ever gets ahead you can purchase them individually like when you joined. I did it for my own sanity and suggest anyone nearing Jim’s anger do it too.
20 ton
2024-07-01 17:11:29 +0000 UTCIf you cancel your membership do you still receive the promised chapters or is it money thrown down the drain. Is Tefler really a politician in disguise. Making promises he can't keep.
Brian D Meyerdirk
2024-07-01 16:57:39 +0000 UTCProlonged_debut was writing whilst in hospital for a brain tumor plus cancer all over it never stopped him
Jim lynch
2024-07-01 14:58:19 +0000 UTCWhy you sorry this guy is just stealing your money now
Jim lynch
2024-07-01 14:02:40 +0000 UTCSometimes I wonder at the fairness of it. Like leading 4k+ subscribers along so I can exploit them as piggie banks whenever I need rent. At first it sounds great... like free money. Well dang man, why don't I do that? And then I think about what it would actually be like... like all those people and I have to avoid communication until the last second and then act really sorry about it as I press the 'pay me' button not once, but twice. I think about making a post that is intended to have content but instead filling it with a heartfelt IOU and then charging for it knowing full well it goes against Patreon policy and that I'm unfairly exploiting my supporters and dammitall I just can't do it.... I just can't push myself to be that kind of person. I wish I could though because of how many happy piggie banks I see loyally reporting in with each placeholder post and I think maybe you(collective) could be my happy piggie banks too, yeah?
Evilebob
2024-07-01 14:02:10 +0000 UTCI’ve told him two days to give me my 7.5 chapters payment back before I get in touch with Patreon as it’s a breach of contract I pay for chapters not promises this can’t be legal.
Jim lynch
2024-07-01 14:00:19 +0000 UTCYour a thief nothing more nothing less give me my money back now you owe me 7.5 chapters you have two days before I talk to Patreon and everyone else who isn’t happy being this guys piggy bank should do the exact same thing too.
Jim lynch
2024-07-01 13:53:12 +0000 UTC"The only way I see any change coming is if enough people get pissed with the placeholders and cancel their subscriptions for a time" I think history has proved this otherwise... from what I can tell (and room for error) he was making like $34k a post Before the placeholders and now he's down to $7.4k a post. Seriously if that's not enough of a responsive decline to trigger a change then it just isn't happening... not when he's "able to push a button a couple times and deposit the best part of 10k into his account regardless of if he’s actually produced anything that month." Because now he's not getting enough per button push anymore so it's now two per month. Amazes me how many (Get well, I'm a happy little piggie bank) support messages he gets with each placeholder but if he ever gave them a way to directly donate, all that would go away too.
Evilebob
2024-07-01 13:51:22 +0000 UTCAbsolute bullshit again with this Tef. I urge everyone to drop this money grubber and find a new person to support that actually delivers.
throw away
2024-07-01 13:50:44 +0000 UTCLess than a year ago, you promised that you'd never do placeholders again. Now, you're 7 chapters behind.... Do things like honesty and trustworthiness mean anything to you? Do you really hold such contempt and disregard for your supporters? You're too far back, and this has been too long. I've been running a maximum of one chapter per month for a while now, but even that is too much considering your current behavior. I'll check back in at the end of the year to see if you've even come close to catching up to what I've already paid for, but at this point I seriously doubt it. With your pace from the last two years, it'll be well into 2025 before you finish putting out what you've already charged people for.
Rev. Thwack
2024-07-01 13:48:32 +0000 UTCYou are behind on your chapters and that is okay, life isn't perfectly planned. But we are not your piggy bank for free placeholders, I'd rather you walked away from your story than have you use us as a cash advance
Dallas Bell
2024-07-01 12:32:57 +0000 UTCToo many placeholders. You’re not going to catch up to date and you need to accept you can’t charge for month after month without providing the goods.
Matthew Marrinan
2024-07-01 12:21:08 +0000 UTCIt must be the mind-numbing pain of his infirmities that causes him to be unable to press the keys of his laptop. Poor shlub.
This Old Man
2024-07-01 11:41:48 +0000 UTCI'm confused why writing is forbidden during convalescence. I have come to find out most of my favorite authors started writing during hospital stays, or terminal illness, r. Jordan comes to mind
AShi
2024-07-01 11:25:50 +0000 UTCTell you what, Tefler. You're struggling now. Fair. But we're being charged in advance for a very non tangible product. Once you're through this, to be fair to us, too, don't just catch up. Make every other chapter free until you've done that enough times to match the number of placeholders.
Will Will
2024-07-01 11:20:15 +0000 UTCthis is total bull shit. the last time I contacted Patreon they mentioned if they received anymore complaints that they would ban Tefler for breach of contract. I am sorry, not sorry for doing this. he was warned.
Tom Ray
2024-07-01 11:18:11 +0000 UTCThat having been said, battling against bad health and worrying about financial survival is a toxic mixture. That Tefler finds the strength to continue writing is impressive. The fact that his writing remains so tremendously engaging is astounding. It is not unusual for writers to receive advances on new books. I see the entire situation in that light. My personal expense to pay these advances is not going to break the bank. I would rather be supportive and hope for many new and exciting chapters.
Gerald Harris
2024-07-01 10:39:30 +0000 UTCHmm, I think that was most likely a typo. On my calculator 7 chapters at $7,377/chapter adds up to $51,639. That's roughly a factor 10 less than your number above.
Gerald Harris
2024-07-01 10:33:41 +0000 UTCdo you know how much he made with those 7 placeholders 516397 dollars that a year income for some
William Wallace
2024-07-01 09:47:57 +0000 UTCPaid per chapter from patreon $7,377 I can only dream of this amount, and to make sure that at the end of the month there is enough to pay the rent
William Wallace
2024-07-01 09:43:00 +0000 UTCI am impressed by the generosity of Tefler's patrons. According to Graphtreon, his monthly earnings have held up remarkably well since the placeholder habit took root. That is no doubt why he feels free to ignore the comments.
IanBio
2024-07-01 07:39:34 +0000 UTCThe charging won’t change unless Patreon force it on him, he’s a clusterfuck for scheduling, promises, motivation and organisation, so he never going to move away from the safety net of being able to push a button a couple times and deposit the best part of 10k into his account regardless of if he’s actually produced anything that month. The only way I see any change coming is if enough people get pissed with the placeholders and cancel their subscriptions for a time, having said that I don’t think we’ll see more placeholders for a while I think we’ll all be in for a long bout of the silent treatment while he tries to deliver on some of the placeholders but I thought that last month, guys got more neck than a rubber giraffe and no shame so more placeholders wouldn’t shock me either. Hope he gets his shit together it’s a great story.
Dawzie
2024-07-01 07:17:16 +0000 UTCCome the end of this month I look forward to the all too predictable theatre of Tefler moaning about fans on discord and vanishing for 4 months, to then turn back up with 2 of the 7 chapters he owes and expect everyone to kiss his ass and tell how great it is he finally delivered something.
Dawzie
2024-07-01 06:53:55 +0000 UTCWhy not?
Ty Wudtke
2024-07-01 06:34:27 +0000 UTCThis battle is quickly becoming a desperate blood bath . I'm hoping with a successful neutralizing of the dreadnaught by Calara . And another appearance from the invincible Edraele . And a massive attack from Jade . They will gain the upper hand . GR8 chapter . Get well soon .
Azwiz
2024-07-01 06:11:29 +0000 UTCThey will never come
Robster
2024-07-01 05:54:07 +0000 UTCThis is getting nuts Tefler.... I've been very supportive all thos time but you must find a different source of funds to get you through this emergency. Using fans as a bank is getting very old and im on the edge of pulling out... I am sorry but i also have financial troubles and will reducebmy supportnlevel to the bare minimum until this is over. Until then listen to your heart, there must be anotherbway. Doesnt the UK have a healthcare system with govt disability support????
Trimtab
2024-07-01 05:21:44 +0000 UTCI hope his fake medical issues develop into real issues. The morons who make excuses for this guy every single time can share in his misfortune. He rushed the story to get almost caught up and did such a shit job he has had to go back and rework chapters now he is several chapters behind again.
Kevin
2024-07-01 05:10:43 +0000 UTCA fee months? This is seven placeholders holders... dude just stop before the site blocks you. Also, YOU MAKE SEVEN GRAND AND THEN SOME FOR EACH CHAPTER, this is just abusing people
Zachariah Beasley
2024-07-01 05:09:57 +0000 UTC“I hate to do this thing that I keep doing without anyone forcing me…really I hate to do it.” What an absolute load of shit from a pathological liar. Don’t forget next time that your dog ate your first draft and that’s why you can’t finish. You didn’t even do one chapter plus placeholders so you’ve gotten even lazier in your contempt and assuredness that the sheep will kiss your ass and ask you to screw them again. Final bit of this rant, ask yourself why tefler doesn’t just switch to charging by the month, as many (including myself) have urged. It’s easy to do, many authors do it. The only explanation is that he knows he can’t lie and get enough money that way. Not enough would actually support his bullshit at a high enough level so instead he has to keep lying and screwing his fans at the last minute every month.
Ben
2024-07-01 05:09:50 +0000 UTCWhy..?
Zachariah Beasley
2024-07-01 05:07:22 +0000 UTCThis is one of my all time favorites stories, but the placeholder charging is getting out of fucking control. It's to the point you should be reported now. Please either just stop, or devote your time to writing. Please.
Zachariah Beasley
2024-07-01 05:06:46 +0000 UTCI did quit for most of a year and have seen a chapter and a half after returning, but here's the deal: I paid for those chapters again because I was a new member. I'm in for one more precharge, but after that I'll wait for Literotica or the books..
GreyManley
2024-07-01 05:05:42 +0000 UTCI am with you Sam. I understand that people get sick, but come on... really, I am an old man with heart issues and I am not down near this much. Let's not forget that according to the about page... he is pulling $7K+ per chapter. That is a Lotta cash for the last 3 months... and here we are still waiting for 169 to be completed. See you yucky in 2025 sometime
Alex Jackson
2024-07-01 04:46:10 +0000 UTCI’m sorry but fuck you dude
JD BREWZ
2024-07-01 04:41:11 +0000 UTCAre these stories so difficult to write that you need to charge 7 chapters into the future or have you lost.the thread and are now coasting on the easy money gravy train?
Ray Priebe
2024-07-01 04:22:19 +0000 UTCI made the following quote in a comment a week or so ago: "You forgot the pre-charges for Chapters 175 and 176, the obligatory apology and the promise to catch-up in July, followed by radio silence until August 1st when the cycle repeats." That was supposed to be hyperbole, not an accurate prediction! The only reason I'm still here is that I downgraded my membership to $1 maximum per month and $12 a year is *juuuust* about worth it for for a few scattered chapters and the drama in the comment section.
RobDubya
2024-07-01 04:14:40 +0000 UTCI understand the need for income, but you’re pushing too hard with the placeholders, IMO. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t receive a monthly income, but as has been pointed out, you’ve now charged for 6+ chapters that haven’t been written, yet, and which you won’t receive future income for. My concern isn’t that you’re requesting income now to be able to continue writing, but that you’re putting too much pressure on yourself and your readers into the future. I would respectfully request that you might consider not doing this again until you at least start to catch up with what’s owed, and if you need more funds in the meantime, to either request donations or to request subscribers to give a bit more for the next (singular) placeholder that you put in after making a bit of progress in erasing the existing chapter debt, such as finishing 169 & 170? I personally wouldn’t have a problem with placeholders in the future if the number of placeholders posted is less than the number of chapters delivered, but again, I can’t speak for anyone else. The continuing inverse pattern, however, is problematic.
Evan
2024-07-01 04:14:32 +0000 UTCGet well Tefler.
Cignal
2024-07-01 04:11:30 +0000 UTCSo I think I'm done with this. It's not that Tefler has medical problems, that will happen to all of us. And even Douglas Adams struggled with writer's block. He said he used to stare at a blank page until his forehead bled. It's the distain and contempt he has for his paying fans, who he only communicates with when he breaks yet ANOTHER promise and places another advanced charge. It's how a 5-year old deals with responsibility after doing something wrong. So I'm going to stop my subscription and come back in a year, and maybe by that time, he'll have finished some of the chapters I've already paid for. See you all in July 2025...
Sam Holder
2024-07-01 04:11:26 +0000 UTCThis isn't a second. This is a seventh because you haven't even finished 169.
Korzic
2024-07-01 04:06:40 +0000 UTCJust upped my membership, I believe in your work
Ty Wudtke
2024-07-01 04:06:03 +0000 UTCThis is mostly bullshit. You know that, right? I sympathize with your health issues. I've been near death myself. But if you have the time to write 8k words, you have the time to communicate with the people who have supported you for A YEAR AND A HALF. Stop treating us as chattel and act like we are partners. We have told you, from many different authors over many different months, that a little communication would go a long way. Yet you continue to treat your sponsors as a battery that you can draw against without honor and without respect. It's demeaning to us and it's demeaning to you.
Str8NotNarrow
2024-07-01 04:04:20 +0000 UTCYep, more placeholders. Just as I expected.
Joe Waldvogel
2024-07-01 04:02:08 +0000 UTCMy bad miss counted
Si
2024-07-01 04:00:11 +0000 UTCWhy you are promising which you cannot deliver. Charge 1 place holder only is acceptable but 2. Great lord..
Unctadsk
2024-07-01 03:59:16 +0000 UTCI'm out.
hoibat
2024-07-01 03:59:09 +0000 UTC169 (lmao) isn't actually complete so it's 7 chapters
Akshay Anand
2024-07-01 03:58:48 +0000 UTCYou are joking right Tef? One or two placeholders we can understand but having 7 is streching our trust pretty thin. We love you and your story and wish you a speedy recovery, but please do not take our love and trust for granted.
SV
2024-07-01 03:56:44 +0000 UTCThis isn’t acceptable you have now charged 7 chapters ahead just adding 2 more but only giving us 1 more to read
Si
2024-07-01 03:54:16 +0000 UTC
