[Fully Uncut] The Vampire Diaries | 6x3 | "Welcome to Paradise" | FULL REACTION!
Added 2023-03-14 16:16:01 +0000 UTC
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@Fly on the Wall You are on point about everything.
VD
2023-03-17 20:53:38 +0000 UTC
I respect your opinions. We can agree to disagree ❤️
Melanin Ky
2023-03-16 03:21:13 +0000 UTC
I see what you are saying but when Stefan turned his humanity off, he wasn't "gone" the same way Damon is gone in this season. He knew Stefan was alive and breathing and there was a a good chance to get him to come back. In this season, Damon literally disappeared into thin air. He did everything he could to find a lead or something.
Lisa
2023-03-15 19:04:25 +0000 UTC
I reread your second comment, and I think I see where you’re trying to go with it, but I would still say Stefan acted selfishly here in a way. He decided after they left him in his new life to come back to their old stomping grounds, and basically lied to their face about wanting to see how they were doing while he was only there to do something for himself, and that was kill Enzo and then he planned to just completely go back to his new life. That kind of yo-yoing can be very jarring for somebody that we found out in this episode was falling in love with him. And you just find out this guy doesn’t seem to care about you enough at all to try to stick around or or let you in or even you know, set up some system where you at least call each other once a week nothing he wants a complete break from you and then that’s kind of devastating. Lotta people grieving a lot of different ways but it’s generally not particularly healthy to cut literally everyone out of your life. That’s a very self-destructive way, and it’s not something that can be maintained. The only way to maintain that is to literally just never go back and if that’s the case and yes, it’s a very selfish thing to do to people you spent a tremendous amount of time building relationships with.
Fly on the Wall
2023-03-15 18:22:35 +0000 UTC
You can answer a phone call from someone you supposedly cared about and just be like yo Caroline here’s the deal. I need some time I’ll come back when I’m ready, etc. But he didn’t even want to do the courtesy of letting them know how he was doing if he was gonna come back while he was answering their phone calls. And it seemed like he didn’t have any intention of ever coming back.. Completely cutting off everyone he ever supposedly cared about it’s just crazy.
Fly on the Wall
2023-03-15 18:12:51 +0000 UTC
@Fly on the Wall Agreed. He is being a selfish asshole.
If he wants space and wants to move away, he could have communicated that to them all from the beginning, not ghosting them and supposedly 'moving on'.
Aqeel talks about communication, but that's exactly what Stefan has NOT been doing.
It's very cowardly and shitty of Stefan.
VD
2023-03-15 18:05:40 +0000 UTC
Normally I'm on Stefan's side and don't like Damon's actions in general, but I have to say that here, Stefan is being an asshole, and I think the characters are right to call him out on his bullshit.
When Stefan went off the rails with Klaus in Season 3, Damon never stopped looking or gave up on him, despite getting so many deadends. He even went to Klaus and would've gotten himself killed, trying to get Stefan back, do people forget that? Damon never gave up on Stefan.
But here, Stefan just gave up on his brother after 4 months? And Damon's only dead because he was trying to get Stefan back in the first place. That's just shitty of Stefan, so I'm completely on the other characters' side. There's always a loophole with magic, and Stefan knows that, so him just giving up and ghosting his friends (trying to pass it off as 'moving on') is him being a selfish dick.
And this is coming from me, I normally defend Stefan against the Damon stans.
VD
2023-03-15 17:56:53 +0000 UTC
Yeah I would like it better if they paused when they talked so they can hear everything that happens in each episode.
Kristen Maddox
2023-03-15 15:38:12 +0000 UTC
Facts. And some of them say such stupid shit.
VD
2023-03-15 07:39:13 +0000 UTC
That's faxxxx tho
xbowalex
2023-03-14 23:34:05 +0000 UTC
I struggle to watch these reactions now cos you talk over important parts then get confused when something has happened
Alisha
2023-03-14 23:32:03 +0000 UTC
Well they didn’t do a good job showcasing it because it really feels like they just put them together because they ran out of options. Stefan and Caroline have no romantic chemistry together, just friendship, all those times you mentioned showed what good friends they are but I never saw any romance, still don’t. Stefan for me deserved to find someone completely new in my opinion, it’s why I didn’t even like when they put him back with Katherine in S5, he deserves a fresh start with a whole new girl. Their relationship from here on out just feels too forced and not natural at all.
Nyeisha Melvina Clark
2023-03-14 21:59:55 +0000 UTC
@Halima Absolutely agree. I think it's unfair to call him selfish. He's allowed to grieve in his own way, yes it's wrong but hurt people, hurt people. It's clear he just doesn't want to feel the full force of that grief yet.
Melanin Ky
2023-03-14 21:09:41 +0000 UTC
The writers said since season 2x2 bathroom scene they knew they would get them together eventually. I personally do see the chemistry because he's so much more light than uptight, doesn't deny his nature with her, just embraces it. In 4x3 we learned he couldn't be himself without becoming the ripper around Elena, but he feels comfortable around Caroline. I just hate that they waited all the way til season 6 to initiate it. Instead of him brooding about Delena in season 5, he could've been exploring with Caroline since they were teasing it in 5x4-5 & later in the season.
Melanin Ky
2023-03-14 21:04:52 +0000 UTC
I said that in the last episode, but by this episode, they all know where he’s at mentally. He’s said he doesn’t want to be around anyone right now. I don’t think it’s fair to call him selfish considering he’s spent 5 seasons putting everyone else first. He deserves some time to grieve in the way he chooses. No one lost as much as he did.
Halima
2023-03-14 20:45:36 +0000 UTC
You’re allowed to move away. What you’re not allowed to do is cut everyone off and ghost them. Refuse to answer their calls, give any kind of explanation as to why you aren’t returning or show any kind of care at all about how your friends are doing in an equally hard time. He completely abandoned everyone he supposedly cared and just gave up caring about anyone but himself.
Fly on the Wall
2023-03-14 20:42:41 +0000 UTC
Caroline was being hard on Stefan this episode. He lost his brother. Elena’s allowed to burn down her house and erase her memories in the name grief, but Stefan can’t *checks notes* move away? If he needs time then the least they could do is it give it to him. She’s letting her feelings for him cloud her judgement.
Halima
2023-03-14 20:26:16 +0000 UTC
Kyle has a very imaginative mind, he should totally be a writer
Halima
2023-03-14 20:24:39 +0000 UTC
I was dying 😂😂😂😂
Halima
2023-03-14 20:24:03 +0000 UTC
I agree that Caroline should allow Stefan to process his brothers death without constantly trying to get him to come back, if Stefan decided that not being around them right now is what would help him, and even if in the long run it doesn't, that's a decision he gets to make. He lost his brother and he deserves the time to process through that without anybody trying to force him to do anything else, could he be a little nicer to her? Sure, and I get that it hurts her but again everyone processes grief differently. The writers forcing a Stefan/Caroline pairing really aggravated me because I never saw any romantic chemistry between them, just friendship and I really started to dislike their relationship going forward. It just felt like the writers were like "well we can't put Klaus and Caroline together because they are on different shows, and Stelena's over, why don't we just put Stefan/Caroline." Like I never felt the spark between them, but whatever. I wasn't mad at Stefan for turning Enzo in, Enzo truly has no life or purpose at this point and just decided to make torturing Stefan his goal, Stefan owes him nothing. Everyone tip toeing around Elena was funny because the girl literally forced herself into a delusional bubble and now everyone else has to play along. And of course the great Bamon moments we got in this episode and the introduction of Kai who I think you guys will love going forward. Can't wait for the rest of the season.
Nyeisha Melvina Clark
2023-03-14 18:44:44 +0000 UTC
In Season 2 - right after Caroline turned - Matt, Tyler, Stefan, and Caroline went to a party there on the night of the full moon - first time we saw Mason in werewolf form - it is on Tyler's family property - it was while Damon, Elena, and Alaric were at Duke