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BTS - Paldogangsan (Satoori Rap) Explained By A Korean Reaction

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You guys nailed accent vs dialect. Funnily enough, I was just explaining these in Horimiya but deleted the comment because it was too off topic 😂 but ya, what differentiates slang, dialect, and pidgin is the about of people who speak it, as in, how many different social groups in various locations, not exact number. Slang is vocabulary used interchangeable from the standardized language. Dialect is when a separation of climate creates a divorce or adjacent vocabulary in the language (American vs England, or within one country, it would be Texan Eng vs California) and sometimes to the point of complete misunderstanding. The more space between regions, the more different the language. Pidgin is a small language (new language) created within a larger one in order to communicate with your own social group. Ie. Queer language, created in the 40s-70s, was made to communicate you are queer to others without outing yourself, but because of the normalization of LGBT+ and actually the relationship between Drag and valley girls, most people now know the pidgin they speak. Such as "to read" or "read to filth" which means "to call someone out" "To roast" or "to undress someone's character." (Usually for funnies but it has grown into a more toxic usage of just bullying) and ya, accent is where you are saying the same vocab, but different. (Ie. Talking vs Talkin' vs Twalkin") 😄 Black Vernacular English is also pidgin. I'd say South TN or Cajun are the most extreme of the English dialects 😂 I can not even understand them half the time. I had friends from both and my ex was from VA, and VA was the easiest to hear. Meanwhile my friend from TN, when she cranked up the dialect and accent with talk like "Om go'n to'da stow tomarrah, masa. Go'n get me some buggy tuh buy'da coke and munchin's tuh wee-hee, fly o't duh windæ, so's be crackin' on" (on 4x speed) which.. I recognize how absurd it looks and seems like it should be a horrible stereotype of a black plantation slave, but that's how she talked! (The "masa" was what she'd use to pretend to be a slave as a joke whenever she was mocking someone for asking her to do something she already planned on, or you know.. being cheeky like how'd we say "yes, sir/ma'am" or "yes, master") and then me and my ex would have such different words for things, we constantly miscommunicated. For eg. "Aww you look do cute in your dungaroos" like.. wtf is a dungaroo? Or she'd call them "dungas" and it was overalls. Took 15 min of conversation to figure out what that was. Or there's "bib" so I thought like a baby bib, but it means a different kind of overalls! 😭 I'm like "dude.. what's the difference between a bib and dunga?" Or they used the word "passy" a lot when referring to someone as a baby. So ya, total departure from ID English, which has a surprising amount of influence from California Valley girls (apparently we're a retirement spot for SoCals) and then Cajun.. Sometimes I'm not entirely sure Cajun is even English. It's closer to a mix of French, Haitian, and garbage disposal with a touch of that southern wackiness. 😅 I don't think I've heard anything like it anywhere else in the south, east, west, or north lol. Can you tell this is my favorite subject? Lol I got so happy to see you guys react to paldigangsang, because linguistics is my main hyperfixation. I usually say I was an Anthropology student, but specifically, linguistics was my focus area of Anthropology. I wanted to be a interpreter/translator but got obsessed with structures and origins of words, which.. with a language as choppy as English, it's rough. I rather learn any other language. Even had to use Japanese to study certain English grammar structures

Chels

Is this the right time to mention that I've always thought your pronunciation of "room" was a little different? Always wondered where that comes from!

Sabbie

You guys should check out the “baepsae explained”, “ddaeng explained”, and “spine breaker explained” by them as well!! It’s so educational and fun! Also Korean songs are usually written and sung in the standard Seoul dialect as it’s the “standard Korean language” and most celebrities would train to lose their regional dialect and adopt Seoul accents

Michella Lu

oh this make more sense now it reminds me of that the run bts episode(136) where they tried to guess the meaning of the words based on dialect

tabii ⁷

9:21 if i remember jimin said that when he tries to speak in busan dialect to his friend they tell him that it’s gone since he’s basically from seoul now. i think it’s similar to most of them now 10:58 i think after being a kdrama and army for long i can tell when someone is using satori dialect specifically

tabii ⁷

This reaction is everythingggg ! Im so glad you finally reacted to it ! I also cant wait for you guys to react to a historical kdrama (like Mr queen) or a "retro/vintage" one like Reply 1988~

Leenseoh

I'm from england and I definitely think we have way more accents than dialects but we still do have a billion different words for things, like there's a specific bread product that I personally call a cob that even 30mins down the road people will call it a different thing (cob, bap, bread roll, bread cake, barm/ barm cake etc.) And it's the same for most words tbh lol, but even accents within small places will be totally different, like I say the word ruddy a lot (used the same way brits use bloody, which I also use lol) but literally nobody else I know uses that word lmao, I consider my accent to be super neutral when you compare it to the likes of liverpudlians, mancunians, brummies, cockney, West Country, northern etc. But when I meet people from elsewhere they can usually figure out the general area of where I'm from so clearly it can't be that neutral lol, from every American media I've seen there are barely accents and it mostly just sounds American to me 💀 one of my closest friends is from up north (Barnsley) which has a super recognisable accent and I'd reckon you could consider their accent a dialect because they have different grammar rules and Word structures, which actually has made me realise my accent has a few very specific grammar differences too haha still don't know if I'd call mine a dialect tho :p

Gurocandii

It's fun how you are wondering if the media in Korea will become more and more Seoulified (?) because it already is. The Seoul dialect is also called Standard Korean. So, when celebrities speak on television and shows, etc., they all speak standard Korean. K-dramas often only use Seoul dialect too because that is the standard for media (but ofc there are exceptions for that). BTS too. When they came to Seoul, they spoke different dialects but switched to the Seoul dialect because that's what everyone used. BTS may use dialect words here and there, but they normally speak standard Korean. It's beacuse dialects in Korea has not just different intonations and words but also grammer which makes it harder to understand for people in Seoul. It is also about image. Seoul dialect is more neutral, so when an idol speaks Busan dialect while the company wants to have a chicke image, it doesnt fit well. Because as this video say the dialects come with different stereotypes.

may⁷

love the reaction!

Molly Clifford

If slang becomes pervasive and fleshed out enough, it can become a dialect. Like AAVE/AAE (African American Vernacular English/African American English) is officially a dialect but growing up most ppl would just consider it "slang." That usually takes a while tho (bc it's gotta evolve it's own grammar)

Ahjusshi_Brown

Accent = altering the standarized pronunciation of a language (intonation, rhythm, tone, etc.) Dialect = altering the grammatical norms/structure of the standardized version of a language Basically, a dialect is fundamentally different (sometimes dialects can sound and behave like entirely different languages from the one they originated from), while you can understand an accent regardless of the region you're from, it just sounds different. Like, all Americans can understand southern accents, but most of us have no clue what ppl from the Appalachian region of the US are saying lol

Ahjusshi_Brown

love the conversations you guys have during the video and after :) i don’t think i’ve watched this explained video so i enjoyed watching this with you guys! 💜

taiyaki hoshi


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