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HOW WE MET -OUR STORY. Plus: BOOK CLUB TONIGHT!

The long-awaited origin story is here (for those who are interested). This episode is a bit different, as it's not so much about psychology, but personal. John shares how he became interested in true crime, and we follow this with the story of how we met and fell in love - a question we've been asked many times.

The photo of our first date, mentioned in this episode, is attached below. 

Don't worry if this episode doesn't interest you, because more crime and psychology are on their way. In fact, TONIGHT you'll have plenty of it! Dr Babe's first book club meeting begins in 15 minutes! We hope to see you there!

https://bookclubs.com/hidden-true-crime-book-club/join/

[Edit: I reference two aunts during our story, and it's confusing. My aunt who passed is my aunt Ruthanne. My aunt Kathy helped set us up, although it was my cousin's idea.]

https://bookclubs.com/hidden-true-crime-book-club/join/

HOW WE MET -OUR STORY. Plus: BOOK CLUB TONIGHT!

Comments

John, you’re a fricken prophet!!! Media changing !!! Bless your beautiful heart !!!! We are all grateful cuz if you didn’t have that convo none of this would have happened without you fighting for Lauren!!! Yay!! 😀

Paula Marie Cornell

Reviews? People who feel powerless try to feel powerful with words … doesn’t work eh?!?! 😂 you are both tremendous and I am so grateful I found you both

Paula Marie Cornell

So many folks are ready to judge and criticize. I find you both caring and loving people that try to do their best. Love your podcasts and YouTube channel

Trucrimegirl

I love your first date picture ♥️

CG1

I love you guys!! Ignore the haters-they are just jealous. I will go to Apple and give an awesome review, for you. Dr John, I’ve learned so much from you. And Lauren, you are so kind and intelligent. Keep up, the good work.

CG1

I know this is a year ago but I am trying to figure out how to give a positive Apple review. It has taken me a month to figure out how to access Patreon. Let me say this, every single time I listen to a you tube video I either screen shot or quickly jump to Safari so I can bookmark a piece of literature or study that John has referenced so I can digest at a later date. You also had me at Dostoyevsky. My all time favorite book is The Brothers Karamazov. A huge supporter of the both of you and wish you continued success!

Laura L

I recently joined your Patreon and went to this one right away. Just LOVED your story! I pray you stay happy and always support each other the way you do now. My husband and I have our 40th anniversary this Sunday. I was only 20 when we got married. Crazy kids. Lots of ups and downs, but 40 years, 8 kids and 21 grandkids later, we are still in love! Thanks for being so genuine and for all your hard work for us. May your love and happiness continue to grow!

Holly Hoch

I absolutely LOVE you two! So sweet, authentic, professional, entertaining and REAL that makes you stand out from all the rest. I’m so grateful to have found you. Thank you for all you do.

Dee

I had to laugh at your love story because I had a similar conversation with my soulmate who called to ask me on a date and then said do you want to have a conversation. Haha I thought that was so strange. He was completely different from anyone I had ever known and has loved me better than anyone in my life. It's a quiet love and a place of peace for me after an incredibly hard life. Also, John you have taught me so much so please throw haters to the side. I'm a better mother because some of the comments you've made. Lauren I think you are a beautiful soul as well. Keep up the good work and I'm so glad you're here.

Ruthie Andrew

The 2 of you have changed my life in so many positive ways! I can NOT even express how grateful I am for your positive insight has been. I’ve listened/watched every you tube and podcast episode you’ve made multiple times. I downloaded Patreon and joined your account because your insight on the human psyche is unlike NO OTHER. I really appreciate the kindness you show to each other, your audience, as well as the sometimes horrible criminals you profile. Thank you, thank you and thank you again.

Mrs. G

Loved your "How we met story!"

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

It is laughable that someone called you a narcissist. Obviously that person has never encountered one. TY John for sharing your origin story. I too am fascinated by true crime.

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

If people are posting negative reviews it means you are becoming popular and are now being noticed.

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Thank you for sharing your story You are both wonderful people and make a great team!

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

You made the right choice, Lauren 🥰

Fondow6

I love pink, too.

Dr. Vonda Kaye

Just super! I have been sick today, but unable to sleep. So I turned on the origin story tonight, thinking it would be a nice, calm way to relax into sleep. Instead, I stayed fully awake, a big grin on my face, with lots of empathic laughter, and great happiness while listening to the story of how you met, and imagining how you must still be thanking your lucky stars that both of you were smart enough and courageous enough to do what had to be done to claim the prize you had found: a chance at real love.

Karen Rose

Thank you so much for sharing your story. You both are such wonderful people, parents and true examples of kind and unselfish mentors. Please know that I will always support you and be grateful for who you are and what you do. ❤️

Julie Law

Awesome story! Love you 2!

MagicJeannie

First of all, when somebody does something like that by putting a long nasty untrue review, it says nothing about you but everything about them. Second, you can be the juiciest peach on the tree and there's still going to be some people that don't like peaches ❤️

Crystal Swannack

John and narcissist do not belong in the same sentence. Sorry someone said that about you Dr. John! 🙁 You’re a good man, true listeners know that.

Edie Miller

Loved your origin story! Thanks for sharing your photo too. John, I’m sorry negative things were said to you. None of that deserves a response, but, because you did explain, we got to learn more about you. That was interesting and helps us understand. I for one, really enjoy your analysis of many topics. Thank you both!!

Kacy Cat Artist

Please. I believe as well my experience with domestic violence and other personal life experiences could be very insightful and full of hope and practical suggestions for those with any challenge in life my hope is to always lead with and from love . I knew at ten I would work with women . Little did I know I , personally , would become a domestic violence survivor. I want my life to be a radiant beacon of hope. I even decorate rocks and when women inevitably find me and share their stories i off them an “enough “ rock. Something to hold to to remind them “ENOUGH” we deserve the very best ! So if any of our hidden gems need some enough rocks . Fortunately my purpose has helped a beautiful number of partners to free themselves from their hells and begin again

Paula Marie Cornell

I listened to his book club meeting early this morning. Very good discussion. Unfortunately I was unable to buy the book in Sweden this time. Maybe next book. In any case I enjoyed the discussion very much.

Karin Baird

We both enjoyed seeing you there. It’s so fun to put faces with the names of our Patreon gems and to “meet” you.

Lauren and John Matthias

Me too ☺️💕

Lauren and John Matthias

Thank you Jessica 💕

Lauren and John Matthias

Paula—John and I just read your comment together again and please know that the two of us are such big fans of you. We admire your heart. strength and vulnerability. We hope you will find your own Dr Babe. We’d love to talk one day 💕

Lauren and John Matthias

I'm so very jealous of your relationship! 😅 not jealous, but definitely envious, without a doubt! The 2 of you just genuinely fit together like the last pieces of a puzzle. I pray to find a friendship/relationship/partnership/love like your's some day! I've had my fair share of messy and unhealthy relationships, and don't get me wrong, going through those is complete garbage. It absolutely sucks. However, I think Lauren would agree, each one of those bad apples has shown me one more thing to look for in the person I choose to spend my forever with. Lauren, I'm glad John had all of those aspects/traits for you and then some! John, wonderful job pushing for her to stay without trying to force her! The whole "this could be the most important conversation we ever have..." line worked like a charm! (I'm completely joking, I know you were being 100% sincere!) all in all, I'm thankful you found each other, found yourselves with HTC, and found is here to add onto your online family! You're both wonderful, insightful, just all around beautiful people, thanks for sharing your story! 💜💜

Paige B

I enjoyed your story immensely tonight, thank you for sharing it. It provided dimension and emotion to hear both of your perspectives together. It’s a beautiful love story. It’s fairly amazing. PS I gave you 5 stars on Apple podcast today, and will work on writing a positive review. You must not listen to - ridiculousness.

JK

Dr. John, we may not always agree, but that you are in any way an unkind or narcissistic man is laughable. Thank you for being you.

April Bowman

This is the most precious, sweetest story I have heard in a long time. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Katie Alosi

I was so bummed that I missed the Book Club. I had even read the entire book and was ready with questions. Some of my children were fighting and my kitchen sink broke, when my husband came home from work looking exhausted, I knew that I was getting no time to myself. I like the story of how you two met. I almost didn't listen to this post because I am not generally interested in romantic stories but you two have an awesome story. I'm glad I listened.

Jennie Anderson

I haven’t had a chance to listen to this yet, but Book Club was awesome! Really enjoyed the book, although when you first announced I thought it would be very heavy, technical, etc. BUT, it was very readable and fascinating! Really enjoyed hearing all the questions!

Sue Komernicky

We will be posting the stream soon, and next month we’d be happy to try to help you find it so you don’t miss it!

Lauren and John Matthias

We will be posting the live stream soon

Lauren and John Matthias

I COULD NOT FIGURE IOOOUT HOW TO GET TO THE BOOK CLUB LAST. To many different places. I find. It practically impossible figuring it all out. Please help it is so frustrating

Eileen Rossick

Hi! I couldn’t figure out how to attend book club last night, but read the book. Are you able to post the book club someplace so I can watch?

Andrea C

I find it interesting Johns accident led him into the crime area. But as a deep thinking little kid too- people always saying “why do you even think about these things ?!” I relate to that urge to understand things. And faced with death?i imagine I could have ventured into crime and death topics young. I just stuck with cats,gemstones and psychology books. Until my marriage. When I married - accidentally- a violent possessive controlling jeckyl and Hyde. He has been a nice hippy feminist artist until I was pregnant. So my doubt in my own judgement was in the toilet after I left. This led me to reading about why and how and who serial killers are. And also- how not to raise one!! Thanks for sharing that story John

Tad Auty

Please don’t listen to the bad reviews. ESP not the one star reviews. They are obviously malicious and biased and want to hurt you. Maybe read the 2 plus stars- maybe they’ll have some more balanced opinions. Or just ignore them. I think people who have legitimate criticisms or ideas would probably take the time to email or message you. The nasty online culture is gross and hard to shelter yourselves from the public eye, and pointed tongue, but please take care ;-)

Tad Auty

I love you both and you both are highly intelligent and very reasonable people. I especially love Dr. John's analyses and great insights. Pls don't let the haters get to you. I do understand it tho, bcs that kind of bs gets to me as well. Kind greetings from Sweden. Edit: Ohh wov! I have now listened to it and this was a great story, thanks for sharing it!

Bjorn

Glad you chose dr Babe over that job 🥰

Karin Baird

Appreciate your honestly and vulnerability.

HospiceJess

5 star Apple review done! Love from Patreon!!

HospiceJess

This, tonight, after one of the most painful and physically demanding months of my life, was just the time I needed to spend with you both. I feel, in my human moments, too broken for anyone to want so I isolate . Your story has warmed my heart . Thank you more than you will ever know. I love you both and I love hearing you tell that to each other. It heals the broken hearted ness of well, you know. Maybe there is a Dr Babe for me. Thing is he would have to be. johns exact clone. So I think I am out of luck but no one deserves more love than the two of you!!!

Paula Marie Cornell

So many thoughts after this episode! 1) Dr John you are brilliant, kind, thoughtful… clearly no narcissist. Lord only knows what demons those individuals had who left those reviews, but clearly attempting to hurt you. Reminds me of the nonsense my high school kids hear from others who are jealous of them. It truly is their problem and I hope they find happiness. Please know that you and your lovely wife are making a huge difference and in no way deserve those comments💕 2) Regarding your origin story… this needs to be a movie! I mean it! 3) So many incredible things coming your way… I said it before, cream rises to the top! 4) 5 stars - listener for life! Set my Patreon to send me an alarm every time you post content. So glad you found each other because it was clearly meant to be! love you both Lauren and Dr Babe 😉😊

CuriousinColorado

And dr. John, I’ll take an autograph!! :) love an autograph from both of you! Really!

Brittany Rohr

I’m Looking forward to listening to how you both met! You look like a very nice couple. I very much enjoy watching you to during your podcasts. This is the only podcast I listen to or follow. Thank you for all the content you two are constantly making for all of us. I very much look forward to checking Patreon everyday for new content! Thanks for working so hard to keep all of us informed!

Brittany Rohr

I’m sure there is another way, but how I do it is I go to the podcast episode. Up top on my phone there are three dots. Click on them. I list pops up - choose “go to show”. Scroll all the way down and you will see 5 stars. Click on the 5th star and then click on “leave a review” 💕💕💕💕💕⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

CuriousinColorado

Dr. John, it’s lonely at the top. You’re brilliant and help so many. Don’t listen to the negative!! Keep going!

Nora Foley

How do I leave a review on Apple? I can’t seem to figure it out.

Laura Pearson

Wow! What a wonderful story. I actually had a few tears. Such a beautiful love story. You both are wonderful and have such a great you tube channel! So interesting and thought provoking!

Kathy

I love this origin story. I’m not an overly romantic person, but this chat gave me the giggles and smiles. Thank you. I love you Two even more! I cannot understand why people are so mean and give mean reviews. You’re one of the best podcasts and YouTubers I know.

Laura Pearson

Great story! I loved it! 💗💗💗

Lynn Bowen

It’s short but sweet.

Lynn Bowen

THANK YOU Lynn! That means so much! We have always appreciated you

Lauren and John Matthias

Thanks for this. Love you two. I stopped listening for a bit to go find your podcast on Apple and left a 5* review. The meanies needs to just stop it. We love you💗💗💗

Lynn Bowen

for the book club--click the link above!! it's happening now. for the podcast episode, I am posting to YouTube now, but it can also be listened to on our Patreon podcast RSS feed, as well as right here on Patreon

Lauren and John Matthias

Do we listen through patreon or is it a private YouTube for patreon subscribers? I don’t want to miss a minute!

Rebekah Potter

I’ll be listening for sure. In a half hour. I can’t wait to hear all of it!

Valorie Dodart

🤣 that thought did cross my mind, but I sort of hoped it meant fewer people might listen 😉

Lauren and John Matthias

You can’t just drop your origin story ten minutes before book club LOL

Valorie Dodart


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