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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Modern women are jealous of housewives

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Modern women are jealous of housewives

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@RhodiumMaiden - Ah. I understand. With so many women now increasingly pursuing and respecting high-paying "hard power" jobs over low-paying "soft power" jobs (like daycare), they have precipitated a near perfect Catch-22 condition where "having it all" becomes untenable.

Joseph Omega

Modern daycare.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Are you referring to "MODERN daycare", or to daycare as a general concept? Historically, for many primates, "it takes a village to raise a child" ruled, as we are basically a gregarious species that benefits from communal responsibilities (from hunting to domesticity, including childcare).

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I agree with the sentiment (and maybe your INTENT), but not really the LITERAL meaning of your words: TRUE Femininity has ALWAYS been able to "control" TRUE men (so not including Gay-leaning men), just as TRUE Masculinity has ALWAYS been able to "control" TRUE women (so not including Lesbian-leaning women). But your contention that "one of the main tenets of feminism is that women can tell men what to think, feel, say, and do" is STRICTLY correct, as "telling men", I imagine, involves the utilization of "hard" (that is, EXPLICIT) power. On the other side, "influencing men" often involves the utilization of "soft" (that is, IMPLICIT) power, which Feminism (seemingly driven by Lesbian-leaning women) doggedly either ignores, denies, discredits or outright rejects.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - The TRUE "tradwife" has always worked, just not in an office or factory.

Joseph Omega

Traditional gender roles definitely work best ime. Always been super domestic.

RhodiumMaiden

Cope. Daycare sucks & AG is 100% right.

RhodiumMaiden

Part of femininity is knowing that you can’t control men. One of the main tenets of feminism is that women can tell men what to think, feel, say, and do.

Eric Linden

Its a no-so-subtle flex of how privileged you are. It’s cringey for sure.

Peter

@EC - My wife isn’t a tradwife by the way. She works.

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - Our friendly neighborhood oracle weighs in on your comments: "The analysis highlights several key concerns with the study, particularly regarding the control group and the socio-economic factors of the test group. The assumption is that those using cheaper government daycare might already face challenges leading to poorer outcomes, such as single-parent households or low-income families, skewing the results. The suggestion to ease children into daycare gradually and minimize full-time use is practical, emphasizing a more personalized approach to daycare use rather than jumping into full-time care, which might better address separation anxiety and behavioral issues. "In commenting on this, I would agree that socio-economic context is a critical confounding variable in these types of studies. It's crucial to differentiate whether the negative outcomes stem from the quality of care or from the broader socio-economic challenges faced by families using government daycare. The suggestion to ease into daycare slowly and balance parental work shifts is a thoughtful, child-centered strategy, acknowledging the emotional and developmental needs of children. However, such flexibility may not be feasible for all parents, especially those facing economic constraints. Moreover, future studies should better account for these variables to isolate the true impact of daycare quality versus the family background, as the interplay between these factors is complex and multifaceted." I especially like your phrasing of: "Change needs to be evolutionary, not revolutionary." There is a REASON why Nature's "slow and steady wins the race" has been so successful over the many millenia of human existence.

Joseph Omega

The funny thing is that nothing is stopping the modern economy from embracing flexible hours arrangements. The technology is there; the roles are accommodating. Just employers are hellbent on strict time schedules. Hope it will change in a generation or two and more people can have a lifestyle like you and your wife Alex.

Cezary Skoczek

The study you do cite has its flaws. The control group is the general population. The test group most likely already has circumstances that lead to poorer outcomes than the general population: those who would use a cheap, poorly run government program, would use it full time vs. part time, single parents, more likely single women. You go over some of those outcomes in your video from June 26. But you do make a compelling argument for very young children. It is and was for me heartbreaking the first few times dropping kids off at daycare or just leaving them for a few hours with a babysitter, even when you previously know the person. I recommend easing into it slowly, several weeks before you have to return to work. An hour or two the first day, then work your way up. Then if possible, work opposite shifts or opposite days if you can, so your child only has to go a few hours a day or just one or two days a week. By the time they are 3 or 4, they are acclimated to it and sometimes even ask to go. I suspect studies on these things are difficult to do, and consist of lots of kids who go from no day care to full time all at once. Separation anxiety can be a real problem for parents as well, causing many parents to wait until the last minute. Change needs to be evolutionary, not revolutionary. Too many parents, especially women, don’t get that.

Eric Linden

I wrote this script a month ago and I can't find the study I was quoting from in the video but I did find this: https://ifstudies.org/blog/measuring-the-long-term-effects-of-early-extensive-day-care Social skills aren't the priority for young children, especially under 3. Attachment is. The more time spent with attachment figures, the safer the child feels which means they are able to grow, learn, explore and develop at a faster pace because they brain is not bogged down with feelings of anxiety. There is definitely an argument for the gradual introduction of a child to social settings as they get older because other children socialize and civilize a child. That's very important because if they just stay home with mommy, they can get spoiled and entitled. However, all the career women who drop their 6 month old baby off at daycare and think their child's brain will develop as optimally as if they were giving them loving 1 on 1 attention, they are kidding themselves.

Alexander Grace

I’m not buying the daycare argument. If there is research on daycare damaging cognitive skills, present it in the video. You have proven arguments in previous videos with actual stats. It is best if kids are eased into daycare; and maybe you don’t want to start right away; but some daycare helps kids to learn social skills, getting along with others, and builds up immunity. Looking at evolutionary psychology, kids used to have extended families and many brothers and sisters. Now with many in the west only having a single child, the children really miss out if they only have one or two other human beings to interact with in their first few years of life.

Eric Linden

@Jose Thomas - I perfectly agree -- it seems like largely semantics. However, I STILL think that words DO have power, and that "happiness" (as opposed to "fulfillment" or "inner peace") DOES have an element of hedonistic baggage attached. I see no need to add this extra baggage if it can just as easily be left at the boarding gate.

Joseph Omega

I agree with Alex. My definition of Happiness (all internal) = like where your life is heading and the person you are becoming. This would mean doing what would make you feel good about yourself long term. Obviously if you do hedonistic behaviours you will not feel good long term, and likewise doing stuff which is not something you feel like doing but will make you feel fulfilled long term will make you happy. Some things that will make you feel good long term might be uncomfortable, annoyed, feel bad or whatever, but if you wouldn't change that decision if given another choice, i believe you are happy with that action, since you want the long term result. Happiness, Fullfillment, Inner peace - i believe that all these terms that people use to describe their emotions on this subject have this kind of thought process. (everyone in this comment thread included - you all seem to be thinking the same way, just using different words, making it seem like different views). I am curious how everyone else thinks on this view.

Jose Thomas

I don't get why this trend is referred to as "tradwives". I used to know my great grandmother (who died at age 94). Her life was brutal. She woke up every day at 5am to help her husband work the field (no tools, no tractors, actually work the field manually). She took care of the household, everything being manual: Washing clothes, washing dishes, making food. Her husband spent 2 years being a POW, while she had to take care of the farm and kids by herself. How is this in any way related to the pretty girl wearing a pretty dress and playing with her kid? To be clear, I don't have any problem with someone deciding to be a house-wife. I think it's great for the children. You might want to consider having some work (or do some volunteering) as the kids grow older, but either way, no problem on my end. I just don't understand the term. Everyone seems to think this trend is going back in time. It just isn't.

Nick Van den Broeck

I don’t mind trad wives that have kids but I find women who have channels who don’t have kids or before they had kids to be cringey. They will call themselves a stay at home girlfriend or a homemaker and I just find those are titles for someone who doesn’t do anything, their houses are usually not any better than women who work full time. When kids are in the picture that is different though.

Alisha

@Eric Linden - Unless I misunderstand something crucial, you and I appear to be on the very same page -- "fulfillment" seems the FAR superior ultimate goal -- and I wouldn't have thought it simply semantics. Yet, what Alexander just described here DOES seem AWFULLY close, despite his continued use of the specific word. I didn't think any of us would advocate for "hedonism" in its strict definition -- if not on the very same page, we appear to at least be in the same chapter of the same book.

Joseph Omega

@Alexander Grace - I don’t see it quite the way Joseph does, but similar. We all want to be happy. But we shouldn’t strive for happiness. Instead, strive for fulfillment. My children don’t always bring me happiness (especially after they become teenagers!). Some days it is quite the opposite. But every day they bring me fulfillment. Happiness is fleeting. Fulfillment of one’s hopes, dreams, and aspirations is lasting.

Eric Linden

For the record, I don't think happiness = hedonism. My definition of happiness includes contentment, purpose and meaning etc. I have just found that ultimately, positive feelings are still the yardstick to measure the value of something like meaning. If meaning felt awful, eventually the human biology would steer us away from it so I just own it and say, what we do needs to make us feel good. Otherwise it won't last.

Alexander Grace

@Eric Linden - What I find interesting is Alexander's continued use of the term "Partner" to describe his wife. But yes, I agree on your de-emphasis of the goal of "happiness". I first witnessed Alexander's blind spot in this regard during his interview with Simone and Malcom Collins.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I wouldn't be so hard on them: MOST "Western" women are SPOILED to one degree or another. I think this "Trad wives" trend is just the first crack to occur in the monolithic Feminist narrative. Baby steps. The ideal wife/woman may prove to most likely be of the hard-working reslient stock of "Frontier" times in the "West" -- a time that may not naturally recur on its own, short some global catastrophe.

Joseph Omega

@Hyperion - Damn. Where ever do you find with such gems?! I just found this, allegedly by him: “Civil rights used to be about treating everyone the same. But today some people are so used to special treatment that equal treatment is considered to be discrimination.” Wow.

Joseph Omega

Trad wives and housewives are not old school. Old school had no dishwasher, microwave, or washer and dryer. They had no epidural when they had their babies, and they had more than one. My wife washed clothes by hand until she came to the US five years ago. She breastfed, made dinner (no microwave), cleaned, and washed dishes while taking care of kids. The women referenced in the beginning of this video are mostly just lazy women who don’t want to work. There are some exceptions for sure. But most of the trad wives we see on the internet are rich or lazy or both. Their lives revolve around the internet and social media, not their kids or housework. You and Emily have the right formula.

Eric Linden

I disagree with so much in the first half of the video. I can’t believe how much you get wrong. But the second half is spot on. The woman should go part-time for a while in the beginning. The man should spend an equal or greater amount of time with a child in the first 10 years of life, whether it’s a boy or girl. You and Emily have chosen a formula that really works. The focus should not be on anyone’s happiness. The focus should be on what is best for our children and raising them right. You are getting it right!

Eric Linden

No one is better for it as a result of the feminist agenda -- not men, not women, and especially not children. "Women can be inferior men at best, and men can't be women at all." -- Thomas Sowell.

Hyperion


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