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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): How unearned privilege messes with a woman's psyche

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): How unearned privilege messes with a woman's psyche

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I’m sorry - you sound like a great guy! Are you single?

RhodiumMaiden

Yeapp, the transition from Ms Universe to Ms Menopause doesn't really land well with a lot of women.

castirondude

@Mack T - I've met many a woman who confuse men's desire to sleep with them as an indication of their comparative attractiveness, no matter WHERE they may ACTUALLY lie on an objective scale. I'm guessing it is very VERY difficult for women to fully comprehend the degree to which men are driven to "spread their seed" across as wide a field as possible, sallow or not. Hence the popular delusional idea "All women are 10's" receives little practical contradiction.

Joseph Omega

@ Joseph. Here’s another where he addresses red pill: https://www.patreon.com/posts/35972744?utm_campaign=postshare_fan

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - That seems a very eloquent yet accurate way of expressing this phenomenon. On the surface of it, it appears so counterproductive to their own interests.

Joseph Omega

https://youtube.com/shorts/vlVW8cnkTJI?si=SNUnAX4cW3SZiZdx

Eric Linden

Many of us here have gone through something similar. The good news is we have found or are finding ourselves again. Women often try, unwittingly, to turn us into something they can no longer love. Such is life.

Eric Linden

Yep, similar in my marriage. I assumed unearned guilt because I had a mistaken sense of responsibility for my wife's happiness.

Mark Bryski

This entitlement is interesting. I’ve had two women before who were like “I’ve had tons of guys think I’m pretty” as a way of saying they could get almost anyone they wanted. It was a response to me choosing to not go exclusive with them yet (they suggested this before the 5th meetup or so, so pretty early). At the same time, I was attracted to both, but they weren’t exactly magazine cover models…

Mack T

I wonder how to test for this gratitude without directly asking at some point “are you grateful?” That way we may be able to minimize dealing with a woman who is faking it. Though maybe asking about gratitude could potentially get a woman to think differently.

Mack T

@E C ,I can obviously not talk for others than myself, but I doubt most men want to be "worshipped". After being in a long term relationship, where there was very lidt praise for anything I did well, to being with a woman who, keeps telling me I'm perfect all the time, I must say that it does make me feel uncomfortable with praise when I feel like it's unwarranted (like being called perfect in a general sense). However, about 2 weeks ago, we had some heavy rainfall that resulted in two of our bedrooms being flooded with about 2 cm of septic water. I instantly took charge of the situation, by getting things that was not yet wet out of there so it wouldn't be damaged and remove the water. As my son's room was not usable and I needed more time to assess the situation before letting him sleep there, I called my ex and told her the kids would come to her a day early, and asked my girlfriend to drop them off at her place. My girlfriend told me the day after (while I was still busy with the mess), that she was very impressed with the way I handled the situation. As I felt I had done a good job doing damage control, it filled me with a sense of pride. Just getting "worshipped" when I feel it's not deserved, will have the exact opposite effect on me. Make me feel like an imposter, and stress me out, feeling I'm not doing enough to live up to it.

Nikolaj Larsen

I was in a relationship with a woman for about 18 years who felt a very strong sense of entitlement. She is French, i am Danish, and we met and lived together in Copenhagen, Denmark. Because of this fact, she felt that i should do everything possible (and impossible) to make her life easier, as she gave up living in her beloved France to be with me. It was a slow trickle, but in the end i had given up on my entire persona. I mostly stopped playing computer games, as "she staying in Denmark to be with me, not watch me play games". I gradually stopped playing guitar as she didn't like the sound of electric guitars. This i tried to change into playing more classical music, Satie in particular as we both liked his music, but as she pointed out his music was "Piano" music and in her mind not suited for guitar. Also, if i did not master a piece straight away, it was just annoying to listen to me going through the same phrase multiple times until i knew it by heart. She liked reading, so she felt we should do that more together as she didn't like reading on her own. I tried pointing out that reading wasn't very social, and while she was reading, i could just as well try to play some of my games (guitar was obviously too noisy for her to enjoy reading). I Also slowly stopped seing my friends, as she would always sit with misty eyes when i left, and was saying things like "i will be so lonely without you", "Wouldn't you rather stay with me and watch a movie, i just can't get enough of you". In general, for the beginning of the relationship she had this obsessive need to spend every waking hour with me, after she moved in with me. I tried to tell her that i found it healty to get to miss each other, once in a while, as it gives time to reflection and reconfirms your love for each other. This need to always be together also ment that i couldn't work extra hours, and i could in no possible way take jobs that involved travel activity, even though this could be a great step towards us moving to France some day, as we had been talking about several times. As these things came gradually, and felt normal and mostly reasonable (trying to see things from her perspective, while being deeply in love), i never really noticed how far i had drifted from who i was, before it was too late. When we had kids i was check mate. This is just the beginning of my story and only touch some of the underlying issues, and none of all the blame i've been facing for ruining her life, for not being the man that she always "deserved".

Nikolaj Larsen

@Eric Linden - Ah. Thanks for the link. I've not seen this video before (or the previous one on MGTOW which he has apparently now deleted?). It explains a lot. If Alexander is saying things that run contrary to the "official" narrative concerning "a historical oppressive Patriarchy" (and for which he can easily get demonitized), then he is, BY DEFINITION, speaking truth to power, and hence "red pill". That there are "fanatics" out there who give the concept a bad name, is true of ANY movement, including Feminism. These outliers can and should be discounted from the rational discussion.

Joseph Omega

@E C - I know it may sound strange for me to ask this, but could you better articulate the reasons why you seemingly go so far out of your way to avoid being perceived as "pick me"? Is it a an ego thing? As long as it does not rise to the level of a pathology, "putting other's needs ahead of one's own" seems like such a noble and selfless (by definition) pursuit that has long been traditionally revered. Is it a fear of being labeled as "soft" or "weak" or "needful of others"? Such fears tend to be stereotypically "masculine", so I was wondering how it renders itself in your case? Is it the female or male judgements that you fear most? Do you, for instance, ever dress specifically to please your boyfriend? Your peer group? BTW, the VAST majority of men (excepting the narcissistic "top tier") are EXPECTED (especially by women) to engage in "pick me" behavior, BY DEFINTION (this appears to be by evolutionary design, as it is replicated across the animal kingdom--most illustratedly by Peacocks). Note: Historically, only a subset (albeit recently increasing in relative numbers) are so desperate and/or lack masculine self-respect, to go on to engage in "simp" behavior. I suspect VERY FEW women have ever consciously contemplated this irony.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Nowhere near as bad as Gemini--that one is almost unsuable. But I have the PAID version of ChapGPT (version 4o). Not too bad. It can be reasoned with at least.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph - By the way, I love Not About the Nail. It's always confused me that women are always complaining that their girlfriends never take their advice, but they don't want to listen to advice from men. And they are always giving us men advice, but don't want to hear ours. They used to take me by surprise, but now I shoot back how they gave me advice too.

Eric Linden

@Joseph - Here is where AG drops red pill identification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5BecCBZlE&t=104s - Got link from Peter.

Eric Linden

@E C - It certainly does--the red pill knows no gender boundaries. But be careful that the male "wants" you describe don't really just apply to the "top-tier" men. The VAST majority of regular men have traditionally always just required loyalty, peace and support--the female-generated "illusions" we were evolved to digest and thrive on. Of course men "WANT to sleep with multiple women" (another evolutionary imperative), but FEW are not all that keen about "opening up the relationship", as drama is not high on our list of desires, and such openings necessarilly come in PAIRS. A HAREM would seem more desirable, if it were not again for the inherent drama. Now, if women can better articulate a consistent and non-contradictory set of "emotional needs", then it may prove much easier for men to accede to them. "Help around the house" seems rather vague, and it would seem BOTH parties need agree as to what constitutes "necessary chores"--women are notorious for their attention to what men would deem "superficialities" (things that are not actually "broken"). We DO tend to be good at "fixing" things. And then again, there's THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg

Joseph Omega

@E C - I'm not sure exactly what is taught these days, but in the past women were taught to protect EVERYONE'S feelings, not just men's. I believe you once said that you hate women who are not "kind" to other women? I get the impression that women wield "kindness" (or its APPEARANCE, called "virtue signaling") in very versatile and skillful ways.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Which is remarkably ironic, seeing as a lack of the ability to "open up" is near the top of the list of women's pet peeves with us. Go figure.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Yeah, I remember watching that one--very ingenious presentation. Reminds me of the very early videos of ContraPoints (the once popular Trans YouTuber, if you're aware of her content - https://youtu.be/QuN6GfUix7c?si=04PEoo55JcqeKhaa). Has Alexander stopped identifying himself entirely with redpill content? That would be a tragic shame that his speech should feel so compelled.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Are you saying we AREN'T rare breeds, and that I have lived a LIE all these years? Also, isn't "stream of consciousness" communications part of a woman's avowed SUPERPOWERS? And as for "virtue signalling", that seems the default communication style since the "Matriarchy" came into ascendence, is that not true? "Social cancellation" is often too high a price to pay these days for sticking too closely to one's personal integrity.

Joseph Omega

@E C - No idea WHY women go through the trouble of faking interest or many of the illusory hoops they do--I was kinda hoping you could shed some light. I may have to chalk it up to their much vaunted "superior emotional intelligence". All I know is most men are, more often than not, puppets of the machinations.

Joseph Omega

@E C - Orion seems a little too haughty for my tastes.

Joseph Omega

Before AG stopped using red pill as a label to refer to himself: https://youtu.be/15q7gu1kIdM?si=Lxr87md882jYeNEL AG hair to the left interviews AG hair to the right. ;)

Eric Linden

I'm surprised ChatGPT is so honest. I heard it leaned left/woke.

Eric Linden

@E C - Hey, I'm PAYING for this sh*t, so I'd best get FULL use out of it! 😆

Joseph Omega

@E C - You MAY have been a victim of your own Hypergamy: That attitude more sounds like the typical narcissim associated with the "top 5-10%" of "high VALUED (as opposed to high VALUE)" males. Most "regular" men nowadays tend to be rather INVISIBLE to most women, and so may not be able to afford such hubris. Now, if by "worshipped" you mean "adored", then certainly ALL humans would "prefer" such treatment if given the option by a mate. With males preferring to be "looked up to" and females preferring to be "cherished".

Joseph Omega

@E C - Thanks. Also, you might be interested in what ChatGPT had to say about women and "social contagions": https://chatgpt.com/share/e7ff07fa-3379-46d9-b5b1-0db3adff4089

Joseph Omega

@E C - "Layer of fun" may betray a privileged "Western" cultural heritage (SPECIFICALLY as a female, which is co-incidentally the subject of this particular Patreon video). In most other parts of the world such luxuries are few and highly prized when or if they become available. Also, if males and females are "not incomplete without each other" and "relationships are optional", then "Western" civilization indeed faces existential procreative risk relative to other less decadent and more "spiritually hungry" ones. We evolved, as primates, to be social creatures that have long flourished under conditions of mutual interdependence, but enjoy your solitude ... while it lasts.

Joseph Omega

@E C - I have my doubts that you really were ("joking", that is) but, just in case, I decided to edit my original posting (only at the end) for your benefit, to attempt to check any possibility that you were not--in any case, I'd advise you to indeed keep your day job. 😄 I'm a firm believer in giving a person as much opportunity to "save face" as practical, and I'm genuinely pleased that, should you HAVE been serious, you recognized and took advantage of this opportunity. If you DO indeed enjoy reading my posts after all, and not unduly offended, then I am very pleased. It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that, given the cultural pressures to acede to the political and financial implications and expectations of an ascendent and currently dominant "Matriarchal" cultural viewpoint, Alexander is ANYWHERE NEAR as "moderately redpill" as his on-camera "politeness" persona might suggest. If your boyfriend is as open and honest with you as I presume you would like to believe, he may validate what I say--you may have to "convince" him beyond a reasonable doubt that you would GENUINELY accept truths which would make you decidely uncomfortable, or that may profoundly shake your worldview. Almost all regular adult men that I know have learned to grow HIGHLY skeptical of such stoic abilities within modern women, so your attempts to allay his skepticism may be unsuccessful despite all your efforts. It is the fact that Alexander has "kept his true feelings thoroughly and securely in check" despite the inevitable provocations, that helps make him a "high quality man". We are a diminishingly rare breed these days. Do I really SOUND like I'm single and in my 20's? You flatter me. 🤗

Joseph Omega

@E C - Most if not all these street videos are probably STAGED and/or EXAGGERATED in some way or the other. And, if you TRULY understood male nature, you would know that, for the VAST majority of men, a woman actually LIKING you is of lesser importance--as long as she can consistently CONVINCE you that she does, we're good. "Creating effective illusions" is one of Nature's more amazingly imaginative adaptations within human female evolutionary psychological development--their men (and their young children) have to believe that, when they are back home, they are in an emotionally safe and loving environment to de-stress from the exigencies and competitive exertions of their daily struggle with an environment and peers that seek to threaten their existence. As a result, the same evolutionary pressures have developed complementary adaptations within men (and young children) to be particulary susceptable to the illusions that women weave. As a result, I believe Feminism has been so amazingly successful relative to other "minority" movements, simply because of this susceptability within the "Patriarchy" to being caught up in female narratives. "Patriarchies" and "Matriarchies" co-evolved to be in balance with each other--Feminism has disrupted this balance.

Joseph Omega

Tempted to code something that sends "Goodnight queen" to like... 10000 women every day like that, then see how long it takes for someone to notice or talk about it, to realize it's a bot.

Devin Forbes

@E C - Name calling seems unproductive, but actually, I think Alexander is just polite--I think you may somehow suspect that yourself. In contrast, I (and my often much more bitter and angry counterparts here) cannot be demonetized for saying "ugly truths" in the most direct and blunt (read "masculine") way palatable. The TRUE essence of a "red pill" is its BITTER taste. "Blue pills" tend to be sugar-coated in its "kindness", by definition. That said, TRUE "fanatics" tend to hold wildly divisive views that SOMEHOW seem to contribute to perpetuating the ongoing "Gender Civil War" in the "West" and its resultant plummeting birth rates. Everything I say is designed to help stem and reverse this tide.

Joseph Omega

@Peter - That is SOOO funny! 😂

Joseph Omega

@E C - What I SUSPECT is that, just like with the phenomena of "Every woman is a 10" and "Believe all women" and "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" and "Body Dysmorphia" and "Feminism and Social Justice" and "Fifty Shades of Grey" and "Eating Disorders" and "Men and women are equal/interchangeable" and maybe even "Runaway Delusional Hypergamy", women may be SIGNIFICANTLY more susceptible to "social contagions", such that a culture that successfully manages to normalize the idea that men and women do not need each other, is more likely to be rationalized, internalized and finally accepted (even into advanced years) by one gender disproportionately to the other. MGTOW seems just a desperate reaction to the prevailing WGTOW zeitgeist. Remember that "Incel" philosophy was originally conceived of by a woman. This susceptiblity seems logically consistent with the fact that women test significanly higher, on average, in "Agreeableness" (a probable correlate with "Acceptance"): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/ Also, I don't get the impression Alexander nesessarilly wishes to convery the idea that older women are depressed without a man, any more than he would feel comfortable in stating that older men are depressed without a woman. But he MAY be hinting that men and women are INCOMPLETE without each other. This seems perfectly consistent with basic Evolutionary Psychology and the biological realities of "sexual dimorphism" across the animal kingdom.

Joseph Omega

But the simpdemic continues . Just this one case it wasn’t But there enough “commenting everyday until she responds “ Even though i wonder if its people trying to boost “engagement “

Peter

@E C - 😄 You DO realize the Patreon you're in, right? 😄

Joseph Omega

Yes it was a bot https://youtube.com/shorts/vlVW8cnkTJI?si=i-iYIhtevmA6kS7u

Peter

Ah. THAT makes more sense.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph. I meant to say that the numbers of women with this unearned privilege, with this sense of entitlement, is increasing. That is why I think more fathers need to be involved in the raising of their children. Maybe I need to reword what I said.

Eric Linden

As someone without daughters myself, I am encouraged by your confidence that these numbers are increasing. I've always gotten quite the opposite impression.

Joseph Omega

This sense of privilege and entitlement starts with poor parenting. Girls need strong parents that don't hand everything to them on a silver platter. They need boundaries and consequences. They need to learn responsibility. They need to take accountability. And they need to be thankful for all the gifts they have been given by nature and the people around them. All women are not like this; but good number are; and their numbers are increasing. Just another reason men need to be heavily involved in the raising of their children. Guys - You are not their friend. You are not their playmate. You are their parent.

Eric Linden

She's a 5 as far as I can see. I wouldn't spend $300-$800 on a 10. I'd take her to Applebee's. I'd spend that kind of money after we're married on a birthday or anniversary, but my wife would probably find a different restaurant that is just as good but cheaper.

Eric Linden

Because the woman in the thumbnail is wearing such a form-fitting dress, her shape appears rather obvious. Personally, I'm not one for MUSCULAR and/or akwardly-BBL'd (not to mention overblushed) women so, even IF I had $800 to drop on a first date, she would not likely be the one I'd be very keen to consider spending it on, but: 1. So many men today are DESPERATE 2. "All women are 10's" anyway

Joseph Omega

So, it seems like that wasn't actually "real" in that the guy in question wasn't that big of a simp! Please tell me that's the case. Otherwise, I think the true problem we have on our hands is more of a simp epidemic than a woman narcissism problem. I truly double face-palmed myself when I saw that.

Ashwin Srinivas

Agree. The difference is the struggle. If you start out at the top, there was no struggle. Men have to struggle;,then when they start to fall, they appreciate what they had more, and what it took to achieve it. In my work, I see many men with torn biceps around age 50. They often say they were just doing the exact thing they’ve been doing the past 30 years. A good example of the turn around in men.

Eric Linden

Definitely an ugly truth. Insightful and profound. Sums up this video very well.

Eric Linden

“ Good night queen” on Instagram was actually a bot trying to prove a social point about how women just want attention that wasn’t an actual writing every day https://youtube.com/shorts/vlVW8cnkTJI?si=i-iYIhtevmA6kS7u

Peter

Actually, yes men are just "better" at killing themselves. Apparently women attempt suicide more, but use less aggressive methods. But I also think suicide and depression are much more complicated than this. There are so many angles to look at. Even your first statement is a massive simplification. If you start very priviliged, but you use it well it just makes your life better. Imagine you are extremely fit as a young guy. Then you get older and inevitable are loosing your fitness. But you are still fitter than everyone around you. You used your fitness to achieve some great victories and you still remember them fondly. So even if this part of your life ist just downhill after your youth, the rest you your life is not necessarily so. I actually talked to a female colleague shortly before her retirement. And she confidently said, that the best years of life are between 40 and 60: You are still reasonably healthy to do most things you want to do. But now you have the mental maturity and financial ability to life that life. That made a lot of sense to me. But of course she was happily married with grown kids and a good job. That is not everyones situation obviously.

Hermann

The closing minutes you talked about 'a women recognizing her fading looks and starting to work on making other parts of her attractive'. But... what if she does recognize her fading looks but cant see the security of a long term relationship of being the perfect breeding ground for working on herself? That is heartbreaking to see... a women just wasting her opportunity. I was in that situation, and it took me quite some time to figure out what was happening. It turned her into this bitter person, constantly blaming me for all the privileges I apparently had (I had worked hard for it lol) and trying to convince me 'this is how she is i have to deal with her like she is and not expect growth in important areas (like self conscience, hobbies, being a wife instead of wanting a husband, etc)'. I felt so guilty for 'allowing myself to judge her for not doing her part of growth', especially if she brought up 'that she gave me her best years'. With kids involved, it started to become quite messy because I could see my daughter showing the same behaviors. That finally pushed me over the edge and I filed for divorce. On your video's you are touching on it, but you have waaaay more emphasis on the 'try to select upfront' and 'try to show correcting behavior up front'. My reality is that I sincerely wanted to help her out with this, but I could just not create the right environment for her. I knew it takes 2 to tango. But sometimes its just not possible to make it work... can you make a video on hard decisions like this and maybe support the 'man breaking up LTR with kids to salvage whats possible'?

Erik de Roos

It MAY have been an Anonymous posting originating on Now&Me dated last December: https://nowandme.com/women-are-born-on-the-top-of-the-JX3FBNev5jULVHb It was described there as "an ugly truth".

Joseph Omega

As men, I believe we have gone through having our own bubble that has burst. The film Falling Down probably encapsulates it.

Mark Bryski

I wish I did, but like many wise aphorisms or witty things we say today, someone else came up with it first. I came across it on a comment section somewhere, thought it was wise and remembered it. Your video reminded me of it. The wisdom encapsulated in it is timeless.

Hyperion

You come up with this? It's very interesting!

Alexander Grace

Women are born at the top of the mountain. Men are born in the valley around it. A man is judged on how high he climbs. A woman is judged on how far she falls. Men have much to gain. Women have much to lose. Masculinity is built. Femininity is preserved.

Hyperion

Starting out at the top with so much unearned privilege means it’s downhill the rest of your life, resulting in women suffering from constantly increasing insecurity and depression. So why is the male suicide rate higher? Are men just better at it?

Eric Linden


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