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[The Rise of Bangtan] Chapter 21 - Magic Shop (REACTION)
Added 2022-05-27 23:51:01 +0000 UTCThere were a lot of timely lessons in this one. Loved it! 💜
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Jeg er også fra Norge :)
Mina
2023-02-27 17:57:21 +0000 UTCLike the ARMYs above, I too feel like the words people use to describe us female fans are degrading.
Line Henriksen
2022-06-10 22:28:26 +0000 UTCWell said, I agree with you
Line Henriksen
2022-06-10 22:26:11 +0000 UTCIt's so strange when I try to explain why bts are so important to me, a grown-up woman from Norway with no bts-friends miles around 😅 the nearest was a sentence someone said: "the reason they are so important to me, is because they made me feel something, which I don't have in many years". Happiness, excitement, sadness, joy, lust....just everything. I am genuinely happy, my children are happy, I'm doing very well in life in my work and other things. I believe in my self. Every day I have to explain why a down to earth- nurse are hysterical and getting tattoos for the first time, and not once have I been embarrassed, not once, just proud.Thank you for making these videos and make me feel less alone ❤
Marianne Ursin Sivoll
2022-05-31 12:33:39 +0000 UTCDT I've been here with you since the beginning, thank you for sharing your love and admiration for BTS with us. I love you .
Andréia 🇧🇷
2022-05-30 01:33:45 +0000 UTCto answer your question in short... Of course we care, its degrading. As a female myself, just simply showing any emotion towards an artist is always considered "obsessed" or "crazy". People never really take us females seriously when it comes to simply being passionate about music or a person.
laura
2022-05-29 23:37:21 +0000 UTCOf course we care! Because like she said its not just about being a BTS fan girl it translates to just overall how women and their interests are viewed in society negatively. You get giddy and excited which is great but you will never get called a crazy fangirl. They will possibly laud you for being a passionate fan and not caring about how you seem to others. We on the other hand are crazy "hags" or kids who are embarrassingly excited about a bunch of "boys". Thats the difference and it translates to every wake of life. When we are called bitchy and men are called bossy/assertive for the same behavior. I think the speaker was talking to a general patriarchal view of just how women and their emotions are always perceived negatively and they are told to be ashamed of it which in turn prevents them from making the same choices, doing the same things and having the same dreams as men. So many army have stories of partners, family, coworkers, friends making fun of them or making them feel bad for being BTS fans. SO its not just outsiders/media describing us, these words also affect how our loved ones treat us and our passions. I am lucky I dont have this problem but its very common. Thankfully BTS is helping change all that for all of us
Jiminluver
2022-05-29 17:37:40 +0000 UTCPerfectly said !
laura
2022-05-29 14:41:41 +0000 UTCI loved the comments at the end, it hit me. You nice, keep going.
Centia
2022-05-29 12:13:40 +0000 UTCwords are extremely powerful. The problem is not whether I today pay attention to how some people perceive me as a BTS fan. The fact of systematically devaluing, negativizing, belittling the words or the behavior of the female gender, not only continues to nourish the power and the self-sufficiency of the patriarchal society, and chains the freedom of expression of its young women. It's brainwashing to format girls and women. By dint of hearing that they are less capable, too hysterical, the weak sex, that they are less strong, that their body does not belong to them, that if they are attacked it is that they have sought it etc. By dint of hearing that since childhood, the girls, the women condition themselves in spite of themselves and feel inferior and the boys, the men by dint of hearing that they are superior also condition themselves to believe it. So DT, even though today I don't give a damn what other people think of me, I do care a lot on how society still allows women to be talked about and treated. And yes, the choice of words has an importance that goes far beyond our small personal sphere.
Tatoana
2022-05-29 06:29:49 +0000 UTCVery well said ♥
Rheyia Pomar
2022-05-28 19:01:21 +0000 UTCIt's great that you're comfortable with yourself and your love of BTS but this was specifically talking about how young girls are treated. "Hysteria" comes from the Greek word for uterus. Hysterical is just not a word that's used to describe boys / men.
AmyAin'tMyName
2022-05-28 18:35:31 +0000 UTCAgreed. ♥
Sonja
2022-05-28 06:29:01 +0000 UTCMy two cents on the wording issue. I think it's different for you because you're not a girl. Maybe people will be like oh that's a weird thing to be passionate about, but they won't see you as a crazy fangirl in the same way. For girls, the assumption is that she must be a delusional fan, even a stalker, that thinks the boys are gonna marry her (yes we joke about yoongi marry me but that's between us lol). People aren't gonna write you off as unprofessional or irrational even if they think it's a little weird that you're into BTS. As a girl, even if you're completely fine with yourself and love yourself, like many ARMYs are, you still have to brace yourself when "coming out" as an ARMY to irl people because you know it's gonna change the way people view you. As a "macho man", you will already get a level of respect from certain people, that young girls don't get. And because BTS is such an important part of many ARMYs life because they've really helped them, it can still hurt. It's not that people get personally offended for being called crazy, but the meaning behind those words is a certain mindset that people shouldn't have about young girls. Even if you personally don't care about the labels or what people think of you, you still want to fight for other young girls because they do not deserve to get that treatment. Why should they feel ashamed for supporting great musicians with a healing message, when their brothers don't get the same treatment for supporting football players? Running after a ball isn't really any more rational, if you're trying to downplay people's interests like that. Also, fighting against the words used to describe ARMYs is also fighting for BTS. Did you see RM's face when he was constantly being asked about how insane and dangerous their fans are? They deserve to be loved and respected, so labeling anyone that supports them as "crazy" or "rabid" or whatever is an insult to them. Because no, supporting them isn't weird. I hope this didn't come off as a rant haha, I thought you just might not understand this perspective. It's natural that a lot of men won't get it unless it's explained, because it's not something they ever have to deal with. Hope that cleared it up a little 😊
Lauren
2022-05-28 06:16:10 +0000 UTCI couldn't agree more on your comment about choosing a word when it comes to describing someone who is admiring artist like BTS, cuz wrong choice of words does hurts for some one. It may not be the same for me because just like you I don't like as labeling on how or what people do...you know just do your thing so long as your not hurting anyone... And when you ask about our reaction to your BTS tattoo..oh I love them..it looks so cool 🥰🥰....Thanks DT 😘😘
Eleonor Capino
2022-05-28 00:39:51 +0000 UTC
