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Run BTS - Episode 86

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Run BTS - Episode 86

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just to clarify; hangul is the writing system

glossy

Right? They tease each other a lot but when they think no one is watching they are super cute and caring towards each other lol. I love their dynamics, it seems like real brothers!

sugaisagenius

Hangul is the Korean Language.

Mwong

Koreans use a surprising amount of English words, sometimes with a slightly different pronunciation. I once saw a clip of someone asking Koreans on the street to say the Korean version of commonly used English words and all of them couldn't remember the Korean words for them.

Bambi

Suga is such a typical older sibling to jimin. He was endlessly teasing Jimin the entire time- enacting a future jimin struggling to find answers in the next game- but he also sweetly gives jimin the answers too haha. I love the dynamic between the two. Jimin is super cute in the next episode, so heads up, DT ;)

bangtanhaja

Love your reaction so and can’t wait for the rest of the episodes. The best would be to do the next 2 episodes together!! Either way I can’t wait for your reactions have a happy thanksgivings DT!

Diana Zavala

Adding a little to the great explanations Carrie and others gave above: Since English and Japanese are my only two languages, one thing that surprised me about Korean was the number of specific vowel sounds that have individual characters or letters (even knowing there are one or two that are accepted as more indistinct or interchangeable now than they were historically) - there are WAY more than in English. This includes combination vowels of the basics, think of the equivalent in English sounds like 'ou' or 'io' or 'au' which become closer to a single accurately transcribed sound - you know a clear, consistent pronunciation reading things like 'tion' if you think about it. The takeaway from this is that vowel sounds in Korean seem to be written to be pronounced with a lot of accuracy, which can be slightly foreign to English where often the spelling and sounds don't match up. This is similar to Japanese where there are only 5 strict basic vowel sounds that are always pronounced as written (so LESS than the number of vowels sounds in English, which DOESN'T tend to match the number of WRITTEN vowel sounds we have!). Since needing to be super accurate with vowel sounds can be foreign to English it may seem hard, but it's actually a HUGE advantage if you think about learning the language, since in most cases you could very accurately pronounce something correctly just by reading the Korean spelling and knowing how that translates to sound (unlike English where someone often needs to tell you πŸ˜‚). So like Carrie was saying, the best way to accurately learn Korean words and not accidentally be saying something else by mixing up all the subtle vowel sounds they have is to familiarise yourself with the Korean writing system/characters and the accurate sounds they transcribe. In doing so you'll probably also learn how the standard romanisations or 'English' spellings of Korean words are more accurately read, since they are consistent within the system but don't have anything much to do with standard English pronunciation, only writing. Of course, since I'm not very good at Korean myself many other people would be able to give you better advice in the long run, and there are sure to be complexities or oddities in spelling conventions of certain words or sounds that I can't tell you. But I think one of the best places to start is by looking up the basic letters of the Korean alphabet along with SOUND FILES and descriptions; the reason is if you only read the romanised equivalent your adding your own accent of how you read English which is different all over the world (I say my Australian/English vowels very differently to your American ones!). Consonent sounds can also be subtly different to English standards, with some sounds being more of a combination of two distinct consonant sounds in English, e.g. overlapping f/p and g/k sounds. There are probably plenty of resources out there but one I found which at least explained the initial history and range of the Korean alphabet very well was the Korean course on an app called 'Lingodeer'. If you can just learn the individual sounds in the way a Korean would pronounce them, then you'll get your ear in for learning new words from listening and accurately reading the romanised subtitles!

MoonRabbit

A lot of these questions were hard even for Koreans haha. I watched this episode a couple times and I already forgot most of them. I think learning any new language can be tricky, but it helps when you learn it whilst having fun too. So if you can pick up some words here and there from Run BTS, that’s cool:) if you want to learn more, go to Weverse and the BTS has some easy learn Korean contents there for free, with video examples of the members from their contents. :)

bangtanhaja

- Hangul is NOT pronounced "hane gull" - "a" in Korean is always pronounced ahh, like in "all" (with the exception of "ae", which is pronounced like "eh") - if you learn nothing else from these Hangul day episodes, PLEASE learn how to pronounce this correctly - Han is Korean for Korea - Hanguk is what Korean people call ourselves (short for Tae Han Min Guk - Republic of Korea/Han), the people of Han - Hangul, Hanguk, hanbok - all the same pronunciation of Han - just like Bangtan Sonyeondan - ALL the "a"s in that are pronounced the same, "ahh" - Hangul is also considered one of the most scientifically efficient alphabets in the world - with dedicated study and a reasonable amount of intelligence, a person could learn how to read and write the language within a few hours - it's simply a matter of learning vocabulary and grammar that will take time - the words and phrases used in this episode are all either regional dialect or disused words that have fallen out of common use - just as Americans from the north may not know what a "goober" is, but a southerner would know - the Korean language evolves daily, just as every other language in the world, and not every Korean is going to know every Korean word - no one on the planet knows the entirety of their native language's vocabulary, and so Koreans don't, either - for example, Daechwita - Yoongi brought back a word that had fallen into disuse, most Koreans did not know what that word meant until his song - "bless you" - this phrase and practice comes from Christianity - Korean society evolved from Confucian tenets - so that term is not a thing in Korean culture - you are going to find many things you consider "norms" will not have a Korean equivalent as the two nations have incredibly divergent cultures and many dissimilarities - you shouldn't ever expect to see your norms outside of your own culture - there are basic human values that carry across the board - the need for love, abhorrence of evil, value for life, need for acceptance and community, but specific details will not be the same - you also can't assume you're learning Korean by reading English romanizations of Korean words - if you want to learn how to read, write, and pronounce Korean, you have to do it by learning the KOREAN letterings, not the bastardized English approximations for the sounds, because they are highly inaccurate - they're approximations, not literal translations - if not that, the least you can do is try to listen to how THEY pronounce it, rather than reading the translation on the screen

Lux

RUN BTS is not RUN BTS if there is no Yoongi and Jimin Bickering!!

Mia G

i just learned smth new! thank you!

laura zane

You explain this really well, my friend! Now it all makes sense, Thank you!πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ

witha

Okay here we go! Hangul (ν•œκΈ€) - is simply a writing system. Think of it as alphabets in English. HOWEVER, other than their purpose in language, alphabet and hangul have NOTHING in common. In English, alphabets act independently, meaning that consonants and vowels stand alone. Only thing that makes English difficult is that these 26 independent letters make more than 26 distinctive sounds. For example, letters a, e, i, g, x in English do this often (fish and fire, same i but different sounds) This is also reflected in writing. In English, you write one alphabet by itself adding the next one sideways, and you call each alphabet a letter. HANGUL DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT. They strictly emphasize the difference between Consonants and Vowels, and these are more like symbols than letters. Each hangul has one sound (never changing), but it cannot function alone. You have to put 1 vowel and 1 (to maximum 3) consonant(s) together to make up a single LETTER. This is why BTS is always playing poem games and consonant quizzes because korean letters are just so constructible. I know it is not easy to understand, but you just need to know that there are 14 consonants and 10 vowels when they are talking about hangul. Okay, Now the REAL thing - In the next episode, the boys will be seeking and collecting hangul to make different words, so I really hope DT reads my comment. Like I just explained, consonant(s) and a vowel (which are like symbols) together become a LETTER(subtitle sometimes translates it as β€˜syllable’ I guess they are the same). Then multiple letters become a word - multiple words become a sentence. Simple, right? Okay since I started writing... Did you know that Hangul was created only in the 15th century, by a king who wanted to help the ordinary citizen become literate. The history behind it is very emotional. Before the invention, Koreans used Chinese characters for writing; Spoken language was not Chinese (probably derived from, but not the same), BUT the writing has to be in Chinese character. So the commoners who simply did not have the time and resources to learn many and complicated chinese characters were ILLITERATE (sounds similar, right? I guess it happened everywhere in the world). They could not read and write, therefore, not able to express their thoughts, concerns and wishes. The king knew how important it is to educate people to express. So he spent years and years creating Hangul (and this was his side job.. Like part-time away from his main job of governing). A language for all to learn EASILY and read and write without difficulties. In those times, usually the ones with power were afraid of people reading and writing, but King Sejong, creator of Hangul was very different. This is why Koreans celebrate Hangul day! It is the ONLY LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD that the name of the creator, founding date and its purpose is crystal clear! To Armys around the world learning Korean, You are doing great! It is not easy to learn a different language, so I thank you really! You don’t have to be perfect! You don’t have to master it! Just enjoy and please write 보라해! PURPLE YOU!

Dream

The next few episodes are so funny I’m hyped

Keith Stephens

the episodes aren’t on weverse until episode 86, so i was just letting him know he should start watching them there. :)

onlyastarion

Yeah DT, is there a reason why you never watch Run BTS on Weverse? 😭

Jimin's Lost Jams

hey DT, just wanted to let you know you can start watching the episodes on weverse now. the subs are funnier and better translated. it’ll probably be a little easier to follow if it’s translated better. (can someone let him know?)

onlyastarion

Another Korean here~ I wouldn't recommend you to learn any Korean from first quiz part lol. They choose hard/old/not really using anymore kind of words only for quiz. This episode is fun but it is pretty hard to translate and explain to others who are not familiar with Korean. =)

mocren Soo

Most of these quizzes are difficult for almost all Koreans. Because the words are very old and no longer used or they are dialects. Korean dialects are so diverse and complex that sometimes communication between different regions can be difficult, especially Jeju(island of Korea).

crescent

You explained 개천절 very well!

crescent

Accidentally posted without checking lol 개천절 (gaecheonjeol), aka Nation Foundation Day in English, falls on October 3rd and it's the day when Korea was created/found back in 2333 BC according to a legend (too long to comment lol). Not to be confused with Korean Independent Day which falls on August 15. The word 개천 (gaecheon) in this case means 'opening of heaven' which is why the question was "which month is the month that opened the sky?". Jimin actually know the word gaecheon but totally forgot that there's the gaecheonjeol in October which makes it the month that have a day that opened up the sky xD anyone who's Korean here feel free to correct me cuz I read about this from a website! Also, I was so surprised that they also know the story of Kyunwoo and Jingnyuh in Korea! It's a story that originated in China and I heard about it here and there when I was growing up in Vietnam. I don't know much Korean but I recognized the names right away as for them to have similar pronunciations to their names in Vietnamese since Vietnamese language was also got influenced by the Chinese language ^^

Jessica Ta

Jimin always reveals the answer by standing while others are sitting. He is too cute to handle. 😩πŸ₯Ί

Naima

Please don't be discouraged by this episode who're studying Korean. All of these quiz are from very unusual or old Korean words. That's why they are so confused. Just enjoy watching BTS being BTS !

Rainbow

'Hangul' is the Korean alphabet. They are not really switching between languages, it's just that a lot of English terms are also used in Korean (such as campaign, community, zombie, etc.) with a slightly different pronunciation sometimes. A lot of Korean words also have influence from Chinese which is why they kept mentioning 'pure Korean' (as in words that don't contain Chinese meaning). This does not mean that the Chinese understand Korean though. It's pretty complicated to explain this through text haha πŸ˜… Just to add, the dialects can be very different for each region sometimes even to the extent where those who don't come from the same region won't understand because they literally have their own words and phrasing. Daegu and Busan have similar dialects (called Gyeongsangdo dialect), which Jimin, Jungkook, Yoongi, and Taehyung speak. Hoseok speaks in the Jeolla dialect since he's from Gwangju and Namjoon and Seokjin speak Standard Korean (although through the other boys' influence they sometimes speak in a strange mix of dialects lol). When you're in the industry, they urge you to speak Standard Korean, which you hear them speak most now. And when you first learn Korean, you should be learning Standard Korean if you want everyone to understand.

yooni

This is one of the episodes where I just lay back and enjoy seeing our boys having fun. I am excited for the next parts. Friendships will be tested. πŸ˜‰

Alex Sarmiento

I first started watching Run BTS when the last episode you watched was released, and this definitely confused me - however, the game their competition here sets up is still far and away one of my favourite from the show!!! The next few episodes are MORE than worth the confusion! I've honestly been waiting for them since your first few RUN reactions and they're finally here. Bring on the chaos and mind games! πŸ˜‚

MoonRabbit

same. i'm korean too and i swear most of koreans don't know what it means lol. that's why it's a quiz.

lucy

I'm Korean, but I've never heard of "Gae chi ne ssoe" before. Jeju has a very unique dialect because it is an island. Even Korean people don't understand the Jeju dialect well.

chloe

Yeah I'm not even gonna try and explain this episode because honestly I just got my info from my Korean teacher so I think a Korean person would be better to explain. But suffice to say Korean is very complicated which is why they were having so much discussion about dialects and pure Korean. I think the only non difficult thing about Korean is learning hangul which can be done in like 30 mins.

Aziza H-R

This episode was full of the famous SUGA x JIMIN endless bickering and teasing hahahaha (joined by RM, JK and J-Hope) RM is obviously really good with languages, but Jin doesn't fall behind. A lot of his dad jokes that he loves so much are based on wordplay, proverbs and he knows a lot of internet slang that's popular amongst young people nowadays. Suga is their trivia master, he has knowledge in the most random subjects hahaha Oh yes DT, Taehyung usually asks help from angels when he needs to decide things. So lovely! When they say pure korean words, I think it's because korean language has a lot of words derived from chinese so the pure ones must be the ones that are not. Also koreans borrow a lot of words and expressions from english (you must have heard the boys saying things like TMI, as in too much information, for example) I'm sure your korean patreons can explain it a lot better than me lol.

sugaisagenius

so exited for you to get into the new episodes:)

Rand

the next two episodes I can only define in this sentence "the great betrayal "😏😢

Dsenisse Valenzuela

just like you in every game they play i always feel like JK is leading even when it is not and i think that is because he is usually the best in every game. i am so proud of him

Rand

I am early!!

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