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The Walking Dead 4X4 RAW REACTION

Bob...I'm disappointed in you...

Here is access to the Uncut Reaction: The Walking Dead Season 4, Episode 4.

Featuring:

🎬 Adison & Brandon


— Adison

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* When Tyreese is on the ground, he's facing Daryl who moves to help him up. In the next shot, Daryl is nowhere to be seen in the shot and Tyreese is facing Bob. * During the scene where Daryl's group finds the auto shop, Daryl spits on his hand to wipe the window and is surprised by a zombie banging up against the window. He says, "Got some friends inside" and walks away. The camera pans to the window and a crew member wearing a white hat and (what appears to be) an orange shirt is visible in the reflection. He seems to be taking a picture.

Austin

* The title of the episode, "Indifference", refers to how Carol has become indifferent to survivors dying and the general situation they are all in, becoming cold and doing whatever she feels is needed to survive, as seen when she murdered Karen and David. * It may also refer to how Bob was open to Daryl about how he should have kept walking before joining the prison group and when Daryl discovers that Bob's bag had no medicine but a bottle of liquor. Daryl no longer sympathized with him and that they should have never let him join the prison group to begin with. * The episode's exact runtime is 00:42:59. * This is the last appearance of Carol in the first half of the fourth season. * This is the second time that Carol's status became unknown on a season's fourth episode, The first one was back in the third season's episode, S3EP4 "Killer Within" * This episode marks the first time that Emily Kinney (Beth) and Sonequa Martin-Green (Sasha) are credited in an episode in which they do not appear. * It could be noted that Ana's leg, when found by Rick, was cleanly cut at the shin instead of torn as if a walker had ripped it off. * Tyreese stares out of the van window to watch a few walkers roaming the field. This is similar to Shane doing the same thing in S2EP10 "18 Miles Out" * This is the second episode of The Walking Dead to use the same song that it used in the trailer in an episode, albeit an alternate version. The first was "18 Miles Out". * The name of the song is "Serpents" by Sharon Van Etten. Although a different version from the version played in the trailer

Austin

The reason Carol is so persistent in the kids learning to defend themselves and not be afraid is because her lil girl was afraid and couldn't fight. There was no reason for Carol to mark Lizzie or anyone else after the infection spread after the 2 she killed were dead. Also Carol wasn't lying when she said no to losing kids of her own. She doesn't have any children that died at the prison. Also Rick gave the guy & girl in the house, their own guns back.

revolves.round.AVA

Yeah. I can see both sides but ultimately carol was wrong since it didn’t even stop the spread of the sickness.

Serena Valle

I love Carol but you're right the way she talks to kids is wrong. Teaching someone the difference between bravery and fear is very important. We are human we will always feel fear over something but we need bravery to overcome it. If you can't overcome it then it consumes you.

Nessa _

Carol is an asset. She is a Day 1. She plays a pivotal role in the community. She is on the counsel so obviously her counsel has been trusted up until this point. She is a medical assistant to Hershel. She helps to care for Judith along aside Beth as well as the other kids in the community. Like @Hummingbirdperks said she is the step up girl. Carol steps in where she is need to keep the community flourishing with a nurturing hand. As we saw in episode 4X2. Rick was all about the farming/no guns. Lil Carl was trying get him to take a more stronger stance with the Walkers bunching up and pushing the gate in. Carl wanted his gun back to help out. Rick kept bypassing his question in avoidance. He was not making the tough calls yet the counsel still seemed to be leaning on Rick to make the final call. I have said this before in the Discord. Carol's motivation sprung from a sense of protectiveness for the group. Teaching the kids self defense via weaponry was a good call because it was pivotal to their survival. The non parental consent was not cool. Them ultimately becoming a liability for group then factors in with their non consenting. 🤔 I agree with Tiffany 100%. Carol making that snap decision doesn't make her a bad person. It just makes her a good person that made a bad decision. Everything good thing she has done should not be totally erased by that bad decision. Her past trauma and losing her only child to this Zombie apocalypse schewed her lense. Carol was obviously wrong for killing Karen and the other fellow. I know she definitely deserved some type of punishment but I still struggle with her as a older woman being sent out on her on and hoping for best.

Camillionaire

I know it's a week later but congratz on your sobriety and I hope it gets easier.

ItsRobbie

Aside from what it’s giving, those shades are fire tho 😂

BrawnaB

They would've died regardless, takes less than 24 hours and it's already been 24 hours at this point

Sean

Btw carol is in her mid 40’s just a couple years older than Daryl lol stress makes your hair grow grey if yall don’t know long term traumatic events or no sleep especially and she was in a bad situation before the apocalypse started

Austin Hogan

By the time Lizzie got sick it was clear it didnt work. I stand with Carol

AJ

If what Carol did was so right, and she could handle Tyrese as she so boldly stated, why didn't she say anything in the moment when Tyrese was taking his anger and frustration out on Rick and Daryl. She stood by and did nothing as Tyrese fought Rick and Daryl, and then as Rick beat him up. She was mighty quiet! She's a liability. You can't just go off and do what you want without informing anyone. Those kinds of actions always have repercussions in the end.

Erica29405

I agree about Carol teaching the kids, not keeping it a secret. I would’ve announced it like there was no choice lol But I disagree with her choice to murder 2 symptomatic people bc that was just dumb.

Montae Williams

But Lizzie was in Cell block D which is why they started to quarantine folks. There was a possibility Lizzie already had it. Also, Peter was in the library and around Carl the day before - so multiple people had it, asymptomatic or not

Montae Williams

I wish someone (including Rick) would have brought up that Carol’s choice was super illogical. The boy died but he’d been around multiple people that day. So how could they possibly be the only 2 who were sick? It’s just dumb. The least she could’ve done is ask Hershel how soon after catching it symptoms show. I’m sure he would have told her it’s already in the body 24-72 hrs beforehand, making her murder plot moot.

Montae Williams

They really forgot too that Carol is a decent shot by this point and stepped up her survival game with knives. She can’t box but she knows how to just slide a blade/bullet through a temple well enough.

Montae Williams

I think it was Hummingbird who said there wasn’t a panel but there was. Literally in the episode there was a council - they were talking in the library about what to do. She could’ve even pulled Hershel or Dr S to the side to find out how infections work. The medically trained folks would’ve told her that infections spread before symptoms show so killing 2 people to diminish the spread wouldn’t work. 🤦🏾‍♀️

Montae Williams

We can definitely say we wouldn’t do what Carol did because what she did made literally no sense. That’s not how infections even work. By the time the symptoms show, it’s already been spread. The infection has been in the body for a day or two. Everyone who’s had a sick kid should know that. So no, killing 2 additional people isn’t even an option and I, for one wouldn’t have gone to that extreme.

Montae Williams

why they carry such little bags? Rick and Carol passed by canned goods. Darryl & co take what they need. TAKE EVERYTHING that might be useful some day! especially those green tomatoes. will ripen with time. or they can fry them up green.

EliG

I hated how she talked to Carl! So manipulative, and trying to do it to a kid

Rynn

I can’t see him as anything else now!

Rynn

hey guys! Sending love from Kazakhstan, really enjoy your reactions and thoughts on each episode

Ayaulym🇰🇿

just finished this vid! im happy u guys are taking this series slow and not really rushing through and having times to discuss it, it makes this series much more impactful in the end

Sky!

Carol did the wrong thing for the right reasons. And the reason she didn't kill others or Lizzie is because by that point like 20 people were infected and sick. She thought she was genuinely helping the group, she just did it in a really messed up way. Especially by not talking to anyone first.

Constantdev

no those glasses fit u perfectly !!

Sky!

Michonne was not escaping or taking breaks from life in the prison! She was looking for the Governor.

EliG

Wish Robert Kirkman made the comic version into an animation tv series and do it exactly like the comic. Don't do All the characters changes and remixes or water down the characters like Governor and others

Fellerz

sam "the blonde dude" went and played The Penguin in The Gotham series; he did really good too

Fellerz

Agreed that you’re wrong on the Lizzie front. Carol only killed Karen and David because they were the only two sick at the time. Lizzie was sick later on. By that time quite a few people were sick, so it was obvious that trying to kill the chance of it spreading was already out the window

DeAunna Thomas

Carol was the one who "doctored" Herscel when his leg was amputated. It's easy to judge while we sit in air conditioning on our couches watching TV, but in that world we can't say what we'd do to protect ourselves and the lives of our children. I know what I'd do now to protect my children muchless in a world where rules don't apply, survival means something very different than it did. I feel she should have at least spoken with Rick. That being said, I don't think she should have been exiled.

Alison Heimgartner

I sadly kinda relate to Bob. I’m a recovering alcoholic and I’ve been sober for 9 years. Back then.. it was hard and some days it still is. I can’t imagine being in the apocalypse and also in recovery. When the alcohol has a hold on you…. Just be glad you’re not. I pray yall never become one

Sara Tucker

Carol kept wanting to keep secrets and stuff and I’m not with that. Told Carl not to tell Rick about her teaching the kids. Told Rick to just keep what she did between them. We can’t trust you anymore C-Dawg! 🤣

Mykayla Mathis

you rocking them shades tho adi🤣

Brooks Duncan

I gotta clear something up. Carol isn't elderly she just has grey hair. My mama was the same way, white hair outta highschool. The actress is three years older than the actor who played Daryl, she was 47 and he was 44 when they started filming. She's not elderly. And I'm 45 I'm older but I'm not elderly yet 🤣 Love ya both lots ❤️ ty for lifting up my spirit like you do!

Usgosudi Wahya-Gihli

Thank you!

Usgosudi Wahya-Gihli

I love your discussions and I cannot WAIT to hear what you have to say about the rest of the season and series. It's so many moments and people I'm eager to hear your thoughts on!

Sabrina

I also thought Carol was testing the couple! If they died, so be it, if not then maybe they're good enough to join us. Rick was def testing her and she failed every time LOL. He did not want to do this but knew he had to.

Sabrina

I support Carol 1000% when it comes to teaching the children how to survive. If Sophia had known how, she might still be alive. Carol wants to make sure the kids have a chance in this new world. Yes, they should also get the chance to just be kids — and sure, we’re currently living safely behind fences — but you still have to consider the “what if.” Anyone who has lost their child would’ve most likely done the same. That’s also why I think Rick was being selfish/hypocritical when he said, “I don’t want you around my kid.” His son is still alive — and on top of that, Carl knows how to defend himself better than most adults in cell block C. Let’s be real.

Tyrademi

Carol was definitely in the wrong, but when I first watched it, I felt some type of way when Rick sent her away, but I respected his decision. She didn't know if they were going to survive or not. Carol committed murder, so I understood her decision. Some of the callers are basing their views on them already having watched the show. She literally committed murder. She didn't give them the option to survive. However, I doubt if Carol would have unalived the children. LOL. I didn't have an issue with Bob getting the alcohol. I didn't understand why he was hiding it, though. He is grown, and they can't stop him from drinking. Although he definitely could have also grabbed some medical supplies, bc what was the reason for him going?

Menia Battle

Carol said “Sam is waiting” she didn’t forget about him!!

Erynn Charlss

Yes! 4377 upside down, h*3*L*L* We used to do this in school.

SonjaB29

Lmao I totally forgot about that

vceisdead

The weedheads out here catching strays. We are productive it's just about waiting til your responsibilities are handled before you spark up

ItsRobbie

Another way in which Carol was an asset - working with Hershel to prep for Lori's delivery - that's a huge responsibility and risk. Told Andrea exactly how to handle the governor though she didn't listen. She is willing to step up for those riskier things, and while this backfires on her with this situation, it's definitely been an asset thus far.

Sabrina

The gas sign said 'HE LL'

Jaci Henley

Not sure if y'all got the fact that Carol did what she did when she thought those two people were the only ones with the sickness. So in her head she was keeping it from spreading to anyone else...that's why she didn't try killing Lizzie or anyone else afterwards. Not saying it was right or wrong, but ya know - this is the apocalypse. And on that note, she's also trying to prepare these kids for this new horrific world. It's not a world of morals and ethics anymore and she's probably scared that they will end up scared and vulnerable like her daughter did. (Again, not making a judgement here...just explaining some character logic because I feel like y'all may have misunderstood those things). No spoilers but....trust me, let Carol cook...and wait to see how the world develops and how character morals become grey to match the f-d up world they find themselves in

brandy.

Only reason carol didn’t do it to Lizzie is because she’s not showing symptoms meanwhile carol and David were

N7

The second half of this season is so 🔥🔥🔥🔥

The Lazy Cajun

I agree with what Carol did, just not how she went about it.... Adison is blowing me lol. It's a zombie apocalypse, she needs to tell the kids the truth or they WILL die. This is not the regular world. Lastly, they do have a "board" lol y'all just talked over the parts where it was pointed out.

Melinda

People tend to misunderstand the Carol stuff in this episode. Carol talking about weakness was sprinkled throughout thee entire episode. She wanted that couple unalived lol. Or she knew they weren’t strong enough to survive. She saw them as weak. That’s why she was so adamant on them helping by scoping the place out. She knew they wouldn’t survive and it would be a natural selection of sorts. And IF they could do that and stay alive then sure I guess they could come back with us. Was her mindset. Rick saw that and he also gave her multiple chances on that run to be humane and she kept showing how ruthless and uncaring she was throughout the episode. She showed that she was ruthless and very capable of being on her own. Thats why he kept looking at her like that throughout the episode and of course came to that decision by the end. Also back then there were people that thought Carol was in the right and it was mainly due to what she went through and her friendship with Daryl who was an extreme fan favorite. Oh and she’s dead wrong lol. This was the moment I stopped liking Carol.

Aaron Alexander

Those sunglasses got you looking like Blade (1998) my dude

Rhys Bailey

Glasses look like blade

Tami Hart

To be fair, the shelves falling at The Big Lots wasn't necessarily his fault. That literally could have happened to anybody. It just so happened to be him...

Ash Lee Can

Not all bad decisions are equal. She literally killed two of their own People and jumped the gun with doing so...

Ash Lee Can

Right on the nail! Bob was an addict before the apocalypse started, but he got sober before everything started, once it started he started drinking the mouth wash and things to get drunk.. the stress of everything in his life before and after made him turn to alcohol

Hannah Riley

See that’s something that’s wild. The group did have a council of people that were making group decisions, and she explicitly disregarded even bringing any options to the table and removed any chance of any of them having a single word of input into the decision that she made. Hershel, Glenn, Sasha, Daryl, & Michonne all were on a council with possibly Rick too…

Jack's World

I don’t like what carol did. Karen and David was in quarantine. If they was gonna die, let them no need to help them along. I also don’t blame Rick for sending her away, because if she had gone back and Tyrese found out the way he was acting he would have definitely hurt her. As for Bob 🙄 I’m not a fan bcuz he got Zack killed. Even surrounded by people I wouldn’t drink myself drunk bcuz any place can get over run. I want all my faculties about me so I can think clearly. Tyrese was stepping to Michonne but tho better of it because she had that Katana handy 😂.

Cleo Griffith

A lot of bad decisions have made sense to the people that made them on this show...

Ash Lee Can

What's wild, Tyrese & Carol were together in the comics during the prison arc(until...👀)...

Ash Lee Can

I don't disagree with her being kicked out, but I don't agree that it should have been Rick who did it. At this point, it was his place. He gave up that right to do so. It's not fair or okay for him to try and invoke leadership whenever it's convenient for him...

Ash Lee Can

Addiction's rough for any average person. I imagine that Bob probably had an alcohol abuse issue BEFORE the apocalypse. He was a army medic, so I can't imagine the horrors that he's seen, so I can easily see him using. Then the world, more or less, comes to an end? Then to be left the lone survivor of TWO groups that got wiped out and being alone in those times for who knows how long? Now, the guilt of Zach's death sitting in his mind. At least in the world WE live in, we have rehab, AA/NA, support systems to help you through it. You get yourself a sponsor who's gone through it and gone through the steps themselves to betry and guide you through the steps as well. You have people you can call in the middle of the night that can help you fight it. Out in the apocalypse, most of the time all you have people helping you fighting from are walkers and people from getting shredded by teeth or bullets. Right now, Bob doesn't have anyone. He's even only been with Team Prison for a week. I appreciate that he does seem to try to contribute and help, but his alcoholism gets the best of him...

Ash Lee Can

When this first aired, alot of people were against Rick's decision for exiling Carol. I was on Rick's side all day!!

Angelcris10

its like Shane for me. You can have the correct decision but you HAVE to consult the rest of the group. When it comes to life or death, its not question asked. You cant just make those kinda decisions yourself. If this was real life she would've been yeeted off for sure.

vceisdead

i agree with rick, i love carol but that was crazy/scary what she did. she basically wouldn’t have said nothing if rick didn’t ask her straight up. so they would’ve just been living with a secret killer among them and carol smiling in tyrese face and watching him punch rick in the face. and again, if it was 2 other people who were sick first like carl or judith or lizzie and mika is she gonna kill them too and not say anything?

vanessa

Carol was definitely is the wrong, and Rick made the best decision! There is a council 😭 I’m so addicted rn lol can’t wait for the next one ‼️ and bob really only wanted to come to look for some liquor smh 🤦🏿‍♀️

Nae

This vid was posted at the perfect time 😂 I may be alone in this but I stand with carol’s decision. She seen the threat of sickness for everybody and tried to get rid of it before it got to the people she cares about most, like the main cast or the kids. Sickness has wiped out countries and had they moved quickly and burned it at the root it could have saved lives, but carol was also too late. It already spread and she had no way of knowing that. I really don’t like Rick’s decision, not because I don’t think she’s strong enough , but because she has really grown to become one of the strongest mentally and I do believe someone like that is necessary for the group. She no longer has a wounded mentality where she just sits and waits for things to past, and if it’s for the greater good of the group she would do what is necessary. I don’t believe this was a selfish decision and you can tell her guilt of taking lives was eating her up but she needed to try and save everyone else she loves. Her trauma helps her jump into action and get things done. I am also very bias , watched this show multiple times, today , tomorrow and until the end of time imma be team carol 😂 right beside Michonne is carol on my ranking of female characters.

SeaWinter

The thing with Carol is that, for the first time in TWD history of 'bad decisions', I completely understand why she did what she did. She's wrong and her reason will never be an excuse, but it makes sense for her in this moment. Rick did the correct thing and handled it as best he could have. Still, it just shows what this world does to even the softest of people.

girlboss

This comic and show has been apart of my life since 2004. I was so damn excited when the first episode came out on Halloween 2010. It's just exciting for me to watch new fans discover these characters and you guys are doing a great job!

IsisAtlantis

Yeah I was going to say the same thing VenikaDewan said they do have a council and she should have went to the council and talk to everybody first but I like what hummingbird was saying there was no leader and I know she was wrong to kill Karen and David but Carol is in the mindset that when there's a threat it has to go. But if you really look at Rick that really hurt him to have to send her away 😢

Queen S

Watch this now while im not doing shit at work or wait for my lunch break… decisions decisions lol

Fellerz

Those glasses…are not for everyday wear. 😆 nice tho!

Jen M

About the girl, he amputated her leg, and she didnt make it. She got bit somehow . He had to leave her body behind. As for Rick exiling Carol I believe it was the best decision. She would never hurt Carl or Judith like that but she can't be there, and it would be criminally unfair to make Tyrese live in the same space as her. I get her twisted up logic, and I'd still trust her with my kids but what she did was execution to those adults that's it, she went Shane and we can't have anymore Shanes in the group. - About Tyrese fighting Rick there was a massive fight between them in the comic and the writers were trying to replicate some of that. From a character standpoint and as someone who went through severe PTSD I have been at points where my feelings caused violence, it can get really bad, and Rick himself did some to Glenn. However I don't think the writers succeeded in having the fight they wanted given that Rick was completely innocent in this situation. In the original fight it's a disagreement that gets out of hand and Rick is the instigator.

Usgosudi Wahya-Gihli

And it's been mentioned in all episodes this season 🤣🤣

Gabi

The knife was just Rick connecting the dots. Also carol wasn’t lying really because her child didn’t die at the prison. If the pandemic was now, the kia boys would have a field day breaking into folks cars 😒

ReelPiscesPlays

Never met super pothead hippies before? Lol come by my way I'll make introductions 😂

Usgosudi Wahya-Gihli

For sure

Usgosudi Wahya-Gihli

Carol killed them because she didn’t want them to infect everyone else, they were GOING to end up choking on their blood and dying but they were just sleeping and coughing when she killed them. And it didn’t save anyone either but I love me some Carol lol she was just on her Shane shit

Sabrina Bookert

I'm so very happy to get this notification

Melinda

You can unilaterally decide to wipe folks out. You can bring it up for discussion...but awww nawww

Marcos Jiron

Rick made the right decision. He has to assume, if it was Carl that was sick, & in one of those cells, she would have taken out Carl. Rick was asking her questions the entire episode, and her answers were very cold & indifferent. Tyrese would try to kill her. Daryl's DEI road trip still cracks me up. And Bob - sheesh - I didn't even mind when Daryl got in his face.

Rindamarie

My opinion on Carol....let he who never made a bad decision before, thinking it was ok in the moment, cast the first stone.

Michael Lewis

imo carol definetly is in the wrong no questions asked . and i completly understand what rick said and how he felt but she straight did it . didnt even ask rick etc . its best she goes out on her own . she can survive . i wouldnt have her around but one thing carol said that has stuck with me to this day is " you just have to accept it " and tht has alot of play in my life the stuff that happens tht you just change . you accept it

NorthhSZN

That decision was wrong especially doing it how she did it. I love carol but Rick made the right decision.

Samuel Daley

lol y’all have talked so much during certain scenes that you missed that they do have a council. Rick isn’t the only leader anymore

VenikaDewan

the numbers for the gas price was spelled "hell" upsides down,

Angelcris10

She didn’t kill Lizzie because Lizzie wasn’t on deaths door. Carol killed those two because they weren’t going to survive. They were choking on their own blood already

VenikaDewan

The glasses make you look like DJ Jazzy Jeff 🤣 All love tho 😅

JOES

Carol didn’t kill Lizzie because it was already proven that she when she killed Karen and David it didn’t stop the virus from spreading. I think her theory was wrong and she can’t admit that she was wrong.

Shaunie Blake

Perfect to watch while I'm having a chill day at work lol

brandy.

They live in a zombie apocalypse. The kids minds are already in a darkened place.

VenikaDewan

I know alcoholism is a disease but the way I would’ve contemplated tossing ol’ boy down into those walkers, because he risked our lives AGAIN for a bottle… he obviously doesn’t cherish his life so I’m not gonna let him take us down with him 🤷🏾‍♀️.

Keke

i havnt watched this yet but please drop another one aswell 🫣

Hamza Abdi

i wanna watch this right now, but i have to wait untill i got my food ready

Hamza Abdi

Facts

Tyrademi

Mama’s gift looks good!!

Raven Smith

Evening entertainment. Thank you, gentlemen <3

Marcella Kicks

Unsuccessful rapper is wild...and accurate 😅😅😅

Michael Lewis

Once again imma hypocrite because had it been Carl Coughing Or Beth, Carol would of treated it differently 👀 & since it’s characters we don’t know as much as main group i’m not as angry as i should be

Demon Rick

Perfect timing!!!☺️

Tyrademi

😇

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